On Laochra initiative, the following changes have been implemented:

Sky Menace:
-1 defence for Air Transports, +2 HP to counter

Naval Commander:
-1 defence for Sea Transports, +2 HP to counter

Relentless Attack:
-10 cost for Militia

Overall:
+2 range for Ant-Aircraft
-30 cost for Helicopters (+30 to Desert Storm Helicopters to counter).

The SM and NC changes are to prevent Transports from randomly defending before Militia (both of them had 4 defence). The RA change is to remove the unneeded economy nerf. The AA range boost is to bring their range up to standard Infantry range so that players can manoeuvre them around easier. They are still vastly outmanoeuvred by Bombers and Helicopters. The Helicopter change is to make them somewhat more useful outside of Desert Storm.

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02.02.2017 - 14:32
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02.02.2017 - 14:33
WHERE IS MAPMAKER?!
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02.02.2017 - 14:34
 Cold Case (मध्यस्थ)
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02.02.2017 - 14:35
I am sorry, i didn't quite got this .
Is price of ds helicpoter same as it was or it's +30 now ?
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02.02.2017 - 14:35
Rentless attack still shit....... You get 4def +10 cost inf...............................And no tanks att buff...........................
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02.02.2017 - 14:36
Ra is still sheit 1+ attack

edit:good updates
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02.02.2017 - 14:40
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02.02.2017 - 14:40
I assume this means Laochra will only be using the balanced RA in 3v3 CW games? If not, its clearly not balanced.
EDIT: This would be like making HW air transports cost -10gc and calling it balanced... the change has absolutely no effect on the initial issue of why RA was being considered unviable.

Also I know it seems ungrateful for the changes, which isn't the case. They just seem sudden and some of them (not all of them), unnecessary or illogical.
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02.02.2017 - 14:41
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U got that editor doe?
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02.02.2017 - 14:41
लिखा द्वारा Darkmace, 02.02.2017 at 14:40

I assume this means Laochra will only be using the balanced RA in 3v3 CW games? If not, its clearly not balanced.

Now that RA is "fixed" laochra should play it 24/7 to prove to us noobs how he "fixed" it now.
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02.02.2017 - 14:42
Once again the shitty elite only buff and nerf stats of units in the mind of EU+ 3v3 10K. Just sell this game, this is pointless, going round and round untill you are back at the start.
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02.02.2017 - 14:44
What you did is only buff ds, already op strat. ffs please fix this. Ds helis got -30 on they already op helis
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02.02.2017 - 14:45
Now hw can use helis too
but ds -1 defence for militias was really needed
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02.02.2017 - 14:46
लिखा द्वारा klevis, 02.02.2017 at 14:45

Now hw can use helis too

except sultan no one is even playing hw
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02.02.2017 - 14:47
लिखा द्वारा Black Swans, 02.02.2017 at 14:46

लिखा द्वारा klevis, 02.02.2017 at 14:45

Now hw can use helis too

except sultan no one is even playing hw

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02.02.2017 - 14:47
लिखा द्वारा Black Swans, 02.02.2017 at 14:46

लिखा द्वारा klevis, 02.02.2017 at 14:45

Now hw can use helis too

except sultan no one is even playing hw

hw is shit
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02.02.2017 - 14:51
लिखा द्वारा Guest, 02.02.2017 at 14:50

लिखा द्वारा Nations, 02.02.2017 at 14:47

लिखा द्वारा Black Swans, 02.02.2017 at 14:46

लिखा द्वारा klevis, 02.02.2017 at 14:45

Now hw can use helis too

except sultan no one is even playing hw

hw is shit

I play hw ..

still shit
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02.02.2017 - 14:54
लिखा द्वारा Nations, 02.02.2017 at 14:35

Rentless attack still shit....... You get 4def +10 cost inf...............................And no tanks att buff...........................


RA will stay crap.

The SM/NC change is basically telling the players that they shouldn't care about defending their transports properly, apart of messing with already-balanced strategies. It will also give birth to a buffered-old issue which I'm unable to search for.

The helicopter change was actually good.

The AA change added some utility for the AAS but completely failed to address the main issue which is the fact that they're expensive compared to other options to defend.

And the strategies were all fucked over again. Yey
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02.02.2017 - 14:59
Map editor is still "coming" I presume?
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02.02.2017 - 15:01
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02.02.2017 - 15:03
लिखा द्वारा Black Swans, 02.02.2017 at 14:44

What you did is only buff ds, already op strat. ffs please fix this. Ds helis got -30 on they already op helis


Shows it's +30... the red is to symbolize its negativity for increasing the unit's price.
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02.02.2017 - 15:07
लिखा द्वारा Guest, 02.02.2017 at 14:50

लिखा द्वारा Nations, 02.02.2017 at 14:47

लिखा द्वारा Black Swans, 02.02.2017 at 14:46

लिखा द्वारा klevis, 02.02.2017 at 14:45

Now hw can use helis too

except sultan no one is even playing hw

hw is shit

I play hw ..

That only proves his point
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02.02.2017 - 15:08
लिखा द्वारा Netzer, 02.02.2017 at 15:03

लिखा द्वारा Black Swans, 02.02.2017 at 14:44

What you did is only buff ds, already op strat. ffs please fix this. Ds helis got -30 on they already op helis


Shows it's +30... the red is to symbolize its negativity for increasing the unit's price.

IF IT WAS 130 BEFORE CHANGE, AND IT'S 100 NOW, EXPLAIN ME HOW IS THAT +30 OR +0 ?
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02.02.2017 - 15:08
Oh sh*t one of them is alive... now can you fix or sell your game please?
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02.02.2017 - 15:13
''On Laochra initiative, the following changes have been implemented:''

Sorry, but are you fucking kidding me?

I mean dont get me wrong, I love Laochra since he is my boyfriend and stuff, but what in the actuall fuck is happening with this game?

There was a thread about this discussing it, alot of people were against it, alot of people were for it, yet it only depends on 1 person's opinion? Why does it happen in this game some people's opinions are more important than the rest's? We all play the game, (ofcourse I dont, since I am a inactive noob who has no life. Just for those ppl who gonna comment this type of bullshit with the point of saying my opinion has no value, to bad I was before you.) we all play these strategies, and some do more than the rest, some do less than the rest, yet EVERY GODDAMMIT change of strategies is based on a onemans opinion or an elite group of players opinion's, including mods who come online once a month and act like they know how to even use these strategies in game.

You guys are AWOL and let us unknown about anything, yet these updates happen like they are so critical for this game.

You guys complain about negative comments, and making it hard for you guys to actually communicate with the community. Well this is exactly why its happening..

Behind peoples back saddling us up with unwanted updates or nerfs.

We had mid 2015 already humangous problems with these strategy outbreaks and now you guys just keep on repeating history? What the hell are you people doing?

This is just plain disrespectful towards your loyal players who kept on playing this game when over and over people are let down, paid for futures they cant even use, paid for stuff obviously dont matter anyways, yet they keep on playing, and all of that is just taken for granted because of things like this.

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02.02.2017 - 15:18
लिखा द्वारा Waffel, 02.02.2017 at 15:13

''On Laochra initiative, the following changes have been implemented:''

Sorry, but are you fucking kidding me?

I mean dont get me wrong, I love Laochra since he is my boyfriend and stuff, but what in the actuall fuck is happening with this game?

There was a thread about this discussing it, alot of people were against it, alot of people were for it, yet it only depends on 1 person's opinion? Why does it happen in this game some people's opinions are more important than the rest's? We all play the game, (ofcourse I dont, since I am a inactive noob who has no life. Just for those ppl who gonna comment this type of bullshit with the point of saying my opinion has no value, to bad I was before you.) we all play these strategies, and some do more than the rest, some do less than the rest, yet EVERY GODDAMMIT change of strategies is based on a onemans opinion or an elite group of players opinion's, including mods who come online once a month and act like they know how to even use these strategies in game.

You guys are AWOL and let us unknown about anything, yet these updates happen like they are so critical for this game.

You guys complain about negative comments, and making it hard for you guys to actually communicate with the community. Well this is exactly why its happening..

Behind peoples back saddling us up with unwanted updates or nerfs.

We had mid 2015 already humangous problems with these strategy outbreaks and now you guys just keep on repeating history? What the hell are you people doing?

This is just plain disrespectful towards your loyal players who kept on playing this game when over and over people are let down, paid for futures they cant even use, paid for stuff obviously dont matter anyways, yet they keep on playing, and all of that is just taken for granted because of things like this.



People against it:
Inactive players
trolls
ds lovers (noob)
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02.02.2017 - 15:19
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खाता खाते को नष्ट कर दिया है।
लिखा द्वारा Black Swans, 02.02.2017 at 15:07

लिखा द्वारा Guest, 02.02.2017 at 14:50

लिखा द्वारा Nations, 02.02.2017 at 14:47

लिखा द्वारा Black Swans, 02.02.2017 at 14:46

लिखा द्वारा klevis, 02.02.2017 at 14:45

Now hw can use helis too

except sultan no one is even playing hw

hw is shit

I play hw ..

That only proves his point

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02.02.2017 - 15:21
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Ds more op
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02.02.2017 - 15:22
लिखा द्वारा Black Swans, 02.02.2017 at 15:18

लिखा द्वारा Waffel, 02.02.2017 at 15:13

''On Laochra initiative, the following changes have been implemented:''

Sorry, but are you fucking kidding me?

I mean dont get me wrong, I love Laochra since he is my boyfriend and stuff, but what in the actuall fuck is happening with this game?

There was a thread about this discussing it, alot of people were against it, alot of people were for it, yet it only depends on 1 person's opinion? Why does it happen in this game some people's opinions are more important than the rest's? We all play the game, (ofcourse I dont, since I am a inactive noob who has no life. Just for those ppl who gonna comment this type of bullshit with the point of saying my opinion has no value, to bad I was before you.) we all play these strategies, and some do more than the rest, some do less than the rest, yet EVERY GODDAMMIT change of strategies is based on a onemans opinion or an elite group of players opinion's, including mods who come online once a month and act like they know how to even use these strategies in game.

You guys are AWOL and let us unknown about anything, yet these updates happen like they are so critical for this game.

You guys complain about negative comments, and making it hard for you guys to actually communicate with the community. Well this is exactly why its happening..

Behind peoples back saddling us up with unwanted updates or nerfs.

We had mid 2015 already humangous problems with these strategy outbreaks and now you guys just keep on repeating history? What the hell are you people doing?

This is just plain disrespectful towards your loyal players who kept on playing this game when over and over people are let down, paid for futures they cant even use, paid for stuff obviously dont matter anyways, yet they keep on playing, and all of that is just taken for granted because of things like this.



People against it:
Inactive players
trolls
ds lovers (noob)

Nice argumentation, such facts, verry verry objective. Just calling someone a noob because he likes to play a strat that isnt as cliché as fucking going to Disneyland when you are in Paris, is just stupid. If you don't like DS thats fine, dont go around and cry about it and making it nerf. DS always used to be a OP rush strat, somehow now people finally learnt how to play it, thats a big problem now? They already fucked over GW, because people tried something else than PD. RA and blitz are already hopeless, next strategy I see on the target list must be or IF or MoS, maybe LB but first prolly buff LB to the maximum and then drop it down till nobody will use it anymore, and then afterwards complain people dont play the strategy.

How about play the game before you decide to change the strategies? Might be just an option of course, if you still care about the game.
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लिखा द्वारा Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

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02.02.2017 - 15:25
लिखा द्वारा Black Swans, 02.02.2017 at 15:18

People against it:
Inactive players
trolls
ds lovers (noob)


"Can't beat them in an argument? Let's call them troll and push the change" - logic since 2015
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02.02.2017 - 15:27
Glad to see an idea I had a while back that got shot down get implemented
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02.02.2017 - 15:47
I actually mailed ivan with these changes 6 months ago but sent him a reminder last week. What you guys need to realise is that Ivan's domain is the website and he cant do anything about the mapmaker in its current state of suspension. While it's a small change and its frustrating that we haven't gotten more filling this thread with complaints and mouthing off isnt exactly going to encourage more updates.

But yea ill mail ivan to add the 30 cost back to ds helis.
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02.02.2017 - 15:54
Lao queen bee like a boss. so much cri in this thread, tears taste good. salty but good
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02.02.2017 - 16:20
लिखा द्वारा Darkmace, 02.02.2017 at 14:40

I assume this means Laochra will only be using the balanced RA in 3v3 CW games? If not, its clearly not balanced.
EDIT: This would be like making HW air transports cost -10gc and calling it balanced... the change has absolutely no effect on the initial issue of why RA was being considered unviable.

Also I know it seems ungrateful for the changes, which isn't the case. They just seem sudden and some of them (not all of them), unnecessary or illogical.


This was just a small tweak to remove a nerf that no longer needed to exist. I didnt claim ra was balanced nor did anyone else. But i do think people are underestimating it due to the comparison with that wildly overpowered version we had last year.

All of these changes were necessary. If there are any you are unsure about i can explain as to why it was added. None of them are major or will alter the metagame in a significant way. Most people wont even notice.
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02.02.2017 - 16:28
लिखा द्वारा Waffel, 02.02.2017 at 15:22

लिखा द्वारा Black Swans, 02.02.2017 at 15:18

लिखा द्वारा Waffel, 02.02.2017 at 15:13

''On Laochra initiative, the following changes have been implemented:''

Sorry, but are you fucking kidding me?

I mean dont get me wrong, I love Laochra since he is my boyfriend and stuff, but what in the actuall fuck is happening with this game?

There was a thread about this discussing it, alot of people were against it, alot of people were for it, yet it only depends on 1 person's opinion? Why does it happen in this game some people's opinions are more important than the rest's? We all play the game, (ofcourse I dont, since I am a inactive noob who has no life. Just for those ppl who gonna comment this type of bullshit with the point of saying my opinion has no value, to bad I was before you.) we all play these strategies, and some do more than the rest, some do less than the rest, yet EVERY GODDAMMIT change of strategies is based on a onemans opinion or an elite group of players opinion's, including mods who come online once a month and act like they know how to even use these strategies in game.

You guys are AWOL and let us unknown about anything, yet these updates happen like they are so critical for this game.

You guys complain about negative comments, and making it hard for you guys to actually communicate with the community. Well this is exactly why its happening..

Behind peoples back saddling us up with unwanted updates or nerfs.

We had mid 2015 already humangous problems with these strategy outbreaks and now you guys just keep on repeating history? What the hell are you people doing?

This is just plain disrespectful towards your loyal players who kept on playing this game when over and over people are let down, paid for futures they cant even use, paid for stuff obviously dont matter anyways, yet they keep on playing, and all of that is just taken for granted because of things like this.



People against it:
Inactive players
trolls
ds lovers (noob)

Nice argumentation, such facts, verry verry objective. Just calling someone a noob because he likes to play a strat that isnt as cliché as fucking going to Disneyland when you are in Paris, is just stupid. If you don't like DS thats fine, dont go around and cry about it and making it nerf. DS always used to be a OP rush strat, somehow now people finally learnt how to play it, thats a big problem now? They already fucked over GW, because people tried something else than PD. RA and blitz are already hopeless, next strategy I see on the target list must be or IF or MoS, maybe LB but first prolly buff LB to the maximum and then drop it down till nobody will use it anymore, and then afterwards complain people dont play the strategy.

How about play the game before you decide to change the strategies? Might be just an option of course, if you still care about the game.

Do you want to say that same knowledge about medicine have some guru from africa and top medical experts from west ?
If yes then Idk. If no, then realize you aren't playing, 6 3v3s in last 105 days, tells something about you and your opinion on this topic. oh yeah, btw, FUCK PD

Who supports nerf
OPI: 1ST PLACE MASTERS OF EAST TOURNAMENT, TWO 2ND PLACES ELO, ONE FIRST PLACE.
LAOCHRA: 1ST PLACE MASTERS OF THE EAST AND SHITLOAD OF OTHER MEDALS
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02.02.2017 - 16:36
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Laochra initiative?...

Something doesn't smell right about this. Is that guy even a mod anymore? Why does he have the ear of the admins?

Say it with me people: c-o-n-s-p-i-r-a-c-y.
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लिखा द्वारा Guest, 02.02.2017 at 15:21

Ds more op

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No need to panic. I have acquired video of this Laochra bloke.

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02.02.2017 - 16:48
लिखा द्वारा Guest, 02.02.2017 at 16:28


Who supports nerf
OPI: 1ST PLACE MASTERS OF EAST TOURNAMENT, TWO 2ND PLACES ELO, ONE FIRST PLACE.
LAOCHRA: 1ST PLACE MASTERS OF THE EAST AND SHITLOAD OF OTHER MEDALS


-Biggest ELO peak(lifetime and seasonal) by far.

-Dominated the whole duel scene when I was active. Won #1 place for a year(admins still owe me a medal).

-More medals than they both combined.

-1st place in Second Master of East, 2nd place in both Third Master of East an master of West tournaments. 3rd place in Second Master of West.

-Beaten both of them way more than they have beat me in duels, as inside as outside of Eu.

+ Made a hell more guides and research about the game than them combined.

My point? I'm not better than anyone here nor my opinion matters more than anyone here. I didn't made this comment for inflate ego but rather to show how bad your point is.

I understand that the majority can be wrong. But so is true and easier to happen for the "experienced" minority.
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02.02.2017 - 16:51
लिखा द्वारा Guest, 02.02.2017 at 16:28

Do you want to say that same knowledge about medicine have some guru from africa and top medical experts from west ?
If yes then Idk. If no, then realize you aren't playing, 6 3v3s in last 105 days, tells something about you and your opinion on this topic. oh yeah, btw, FUCK PD

Who supports nerf
OPI: 1ST PLACE MASTERS OF EAST TOURNAMENT, TWO 2ND PLACES ELO, ONE FIRST PLACE.
LAOCHRA: 1ST PLACE MASTERS OF THE EAST AND SHITLOAD OF OTHER MEDALS

Nerf? What pot you smoked? 100 for a DS heli is not a nerf, its a fucking boost making DS overpowered compared to any other fucking strategy.

I dont know what point you or swans are trying to make with saying this blabla more games than you in the last 100 days blabla stuff, but DS stayed the same for years now, in those years I think I have played DS more than you played AW games in total, so how about you and any of those 2016/2015 faggs who just joined the 3v3scene buttlicking any player who has any kind of authority in this game and thinking that you actually know how much games ive played and how much active or inactive I am or the knowledge I have about the strategies. I am so done with those people who know how to play only 1 or 2 strats at the top and then comment about the other strategies when they get beaten by it.

And by naming Opi and Laochra with their victories and achievements what point are you trying to make there? Their opinion counts more? Because they won a tournament? Because they placed 2nd in elo leaque? Thats the whole problem in this fucking community now days. You people think you know what the fuck you talking about when you have medal of a tournament or are high ranked in elo or won that many cw or blablablabla. It has all to do with activity, not knowing what shit you talking about.

And the african guru you are refering too, I don't know if you actually know something about history, but most of the medicines come from africa/india/middle-east/asia. Actually not only the medicine, but alot of normal food, cultures, money, oil, whatever shit you use in your daily life, comes from one of those countries/continents. So stop being such a spoiled little brat and seeing yourself higher or better than anybody else.
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लिखा द्वारा Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

Waffel for mod 2015
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लिखा द्वारा Waffel, 02.02.2017 at 16:51


And the african guru you are refering too, I don't know if you actually know something about history, but most of the medicines come from africa/india/middle-east/asia.


Could you be more racist? You are calling Egyptians, Babylonians, Greeks, Indians and Chinese---> AFRICAN GURUS? Do they all seem the same to you or something? Cause these are the forefathers of medicine and they are not Africans. Be more sensitive please, just because they are not white, doesnt mean they are all black. Check your privilege racist white boy.
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लिखा द्वारा clovis1122, 02.02.2017 at 16:48

लिखा द्वारा Guest, 02.02.2017 at 16:28


Who supports nerf
OPI: 1ST PLACE MASTERS OF EAST TOURNAMENT, TWO 2ND PLACES ELO, ONE FIRST PLACE.
LAOCHRA: 1ST PLACE MASTERS OF THE EAST AND SHITLOAD OF OTHER MEDALS


-Biggest ELO peak by far.

-More metals than they both combined.

-1st place in Second Master of East, 2nd place in both Third Master of East an master of West tournaments. 3rd place in Second Master of West.

-Beaten both of them way more than they have beat me in duels, as inside as outside of Eu.

+ Made a hell more guides and research about the game than them combined.

My point? I'm not better than anyone here nor my opinion matters more than anyone here.

I understand that the majority can be wrong. But so is true and easier to happen for the "experienced" minority.


And yet you still felt the need to brag about these achievements. A players skill and game knowlege is important yes but so is the ability to provide constructive opinions and well reasoned arguments backed up by evidence. You seem to be more interested in bragging about who you can beat in duels and posting screenshots about how players you dont agree with were proven wrong years ago.

Look at your posts in this thread, your first response was to post 2 emoticons and your 2nd was a breakdown of the changes that doesnt even make sense. The strategies were fucked again you say? How?

As soon as you saw the phrase "On Laochra's initiative", you were set against whatever changes were proposed purely based on my involvement. You are so blinded by hatred that it is impossible to have a constructive discussion with you. It is sad, because you do actually have a lot to offer. Waffel was right when he said you do have a big voice in the community. I just wish you'd learn to use it properly. I don't even know why i am making this post, i wonder if you are beyond help.
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02.02.2017 - 17:37
IDK About the rest of you but Im Glad to see any kind of Update whether i agree or dont agree with the changes. Ppl scream for them to sell or complain about this or that But i mean they could just say screw it stop paying the servers and shut AW down Completely, But they dont And i for 1 am grateful for that cus I love this game and i have meant many good ppl on this game and made friends all over the world on this game ...And Now That i Have said all That Could we buy chance Please get something done about the servers or something to fix the Constant DCs and the lag Cus thats really the most Immediate Issue IMOP.
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लिखा द्वारा Skittzophrenic, 02.02.2017 at 17:29

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xa, I'll upvote because is a fun meme but it's critical the one claiming for more upgrades not me.
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02.02.2017 - 17:40
लिखा द्वारा Black Swans, 02.02.2017 at 15:08

लिखा द्वारा Netzer, 02.02.2017 at 15:03

लिखा द्वारा Black Swans, 02.02.2017 at 14:44

What you did is only buff ds, already op strat. ffs please fix this. Ds helis got -30 on they already op helis


Shows it's +30... the red is to symbolize its negativity for increasing the unit's price.

IF IT WAS 130 BEFORE CHANGE, AND IT'S 100 NOW, EXPLAIN ME HOW IS THAT +30 OR +0 ?

Probably error. Ivan stated the price for DS helicopters is additional +30.
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02.02.2017 - 17:49
 Nero (मध्यस्थ)
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Laochra¹: i pray to the great zizou, that my tb stops the airtrans of the yellow infidel
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