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लिखा द्वारा Aetius, 26.08.2017 at 19:43
specifically by the widely disliked elitist Camillus Vipsanius.
hold the applause everyone
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I use my contacts to pressure my tribune to propose empirezz and white army as consuls for the next senate
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I use my contacts to pressure my tribune to propose empirezz and white army as consuls for the next senate
Are you still in Rome?
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लिखा द्वारा Aetius, 26.08.2017 at 20:22
I use my contacts to pressure my tribune to propose empirezz and white army as consuls for the next senate
Are you still in Rome?
Do we even have to worry about him if he is still in rome?
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==Turn 17: Phase 3 has begun==
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I will be leaving the game. Internal issues. All my stuff goes to the next reform ldr or their choice. If pho leaves too.
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Leaving. Host is either bias or is inconsistent with own rules. The understanding was that vote ended at 4am gmt. The fact he manipulated us into using murder of tribune sooner on the basis "pking was in illyria and populares had no more tribunes" does not sit well with me.
His response to this was that populares had more cards and more money. However Aetius told me that the time deadline was put in place to prevent extended deadline bidding which reinforces the status quo.
I stuck around and worked my ass off to turn this game around on the basis that it was possible given that rule change. Which pavle had agreed to.
The game is enjoyable to a point and I appreciate the effort Aetius and others have put into it. But the rules need refining and need to be set and abided by consistently. Without host intervention of faction plans, for it to be worth playing.
There is also the issue of afk players... this prevented us being able to nominate a dictator which was an important compoment of our plans.
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लिखा द्वारा Phoenix, 27.08.2017 at 02:33
Way to go to ruin the balance of power, assholes. This is as bad as leaving an atWar game mid-game.
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लिखा द्वारा Phoenix, 27.08.2017 at 02:33
Way to go to ruin the balance of power, assholes. This is as bad as leaving an atWar game mid-game.
Take it up with Aetius. We were going to use murder of tribune at end of vote to stop them. But he wouldnt allow it.
Edit: We were trying to establish a balance when the game was heavily in favour of populares.I wanted to leave on t10 thinking it was useless. But Aetius persuaded me and darth to stay telling us things would change and introduce new deadline rule... which he hasnt allowed us to even make use of this turn...Instead of taking it out on us. Consider what you could have done differently.
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लिखा द्वारा Phoenix, 27.08.2017 at 04:22
Take it up with Aetius. We were going to use murder of tribune at end of vote to stop them. But he wouldnt allow it.
Can you even use murder of a tribune after the tribune has been used?
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लिखा द्वारा Phoenix, 27.08.2017 at 04:22
Take it up with Aetius. We were going to use murder of tribune at end of vote to stop them. But he wouldnt allow it.
Can you even use murder of a tribune after the tribune has been used?
Yes thats why its called Murder of a tribune.
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लिखा द्वारा Phoenix, 27.08.2017 at 04:26
Yes thats why its called Murder of a tribune.
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So you used it, now what, shouldn't the nomination be cancelled?
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लिखा द्वारा Phoenix, 27.08.2017 at 04:26
Yes thats why its called Murder of a tribune.
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So you used it, now what, shouldn't the nomination be cancelled?
We wanted to use it in the last half hour of voting. Meaning yes... it should no longer ve an option. they couldnt react properly with half hour to go. Only then Aetius told us to use it with 2 hours to go. He literally said "they dont have anymore tribunes. Do it now".
But because he made jf and mrarmy do it early pking was able to use his tribune and aetous said "oh well empirezz had one anyway".
Basically Aetius wouldnt let us use it at the end of voting.
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लिखा द्वारा Phoenix, 27.08.2017 at 04:57
We wanted to use it in the last half hour of voting. Meaning yes... it should no longer ve an option. they couldnt react properly with half hour to go. Only then Aetius told us to use it with 2 hours to go. He literally said "they dont have anymore tribunes. Do it now".
But because he made jf and mrarmy do it early pking was able to use his tribune and aetous said "oh well empirezz had one anyway".
Basically Aetius wouldnt let us use it at the end of voting.
That was obviously a mistake by Aetius, no rigging or whatever... he just didn't see the possibility. Stop making cancerous conspiracy theories. You'll lose one Consulship. Big deal.
As for not allowing you to use it at the end of the vote, maybe that's exactly the reason he didn't... so that the enemy faction can react to it, to keep the game interesting.
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लिखा द्वारा Phoenix, 27.08.2017 at 04:57
We wanted to use it in the last half hour of voting. Meaning yes... it should no longer ve an option. they couldnt react properly with half hour to go. Only then Aetius told us to use it with 2 hours to go. He literally said "they dont have anymore tribunes. Do it now".
But because he made jf and mrarmy do it early pking was able to use his tribune and aetous said "oh well empirezz had one anyway".
Basically Aetius wouldnt let us use it at the end of voting.
That was obviously a mistake by Aetius, no rigging or whatever... he just didn't see the possibility. Stop making cancerous conspiracy theories. You'll lose one Consulship. Big deal.
As for not allowing you to use it at the end of the vote, maybe that's exactly the reason he didn't... so that the enemy faction can react to it, to keep the game interesting.
Which means i was right all along and that the game isnt worth playing anymore. I said this on turn 10.
Again we tried to bring a balance to the game. What did you do?
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लिखा द्वारा Phoenix, 27.08.2017 at 05:18
Which means i was right all along and that the game isnt worth playing anymore. I said this on turn 10.
Again we tried to bring a balance to the game. What did you do?
Reformatio has majority in the Senate atm. You'll just lose one turn. As for what I did... propose Reformatio and neutral Consul/Censor/Praetor options during my 3 options? Save everyone by not engaging Hannibal so that our veterans can be used against the rebels?
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लिखा द्वारा Phoenix, 27.08.2017 at 05:18
Which means i was right all along and that the game isnt worth playing anymore. I said this on turn 10.
Again we tried to bring a balance to the game. What did you do?
Reformatio has majority in the Senate atm. You'll just lose one turn. As for what I did... propose Reformatio and neutral Consul/Censor/Praetor options during my 3 options? Save everyone by not engaging Hannibal so that our veterans can be used against the rebels?
1 turn is all it takes for pavle to become dictator and send all legions and navy against pking..and allowing them to rebel with all units at the end of this turn.
Why else would they bribe up to 80 on consul?
Am i the only fucking person here that can see that window of opportunity?
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लिखा द्वारा Phoenix, 27.08.2017 at 05:23
1 turn is all it takes for pavle to become dictator and send all legions and navy against pking..and allowing them to rebel with all units at the end of this turn.
Why else would they bribe up to 80 on consul?
Am i the only fucking person here that can see that window of opportunity?
Boywind has 2 Tribunes... can easily veto dictator vote or deployment vote.
If it makes you feel better I can revolt first before Pavle gets the chance : D
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लिखा द्वारा Phoenix, 27.08.2017 at 05:23
1 turn is all it takes for pavle to become dictator and send all legions and navy against pking..and allowing them to rebel with all units at the end of this turn.
Why else would they bribe up to 80 on consul?
Am i the only fucking person here that can see that window of opportunity?
Boywind has 2 Tribunes... can easily veto dictator vote or deployment vote.
If it makes you feel better I can revolt first before Pavle gets the chance : D
You cant veto dictator. Its not a vote. The consuls choose him. Both populares. He then gets to deploy what he wants where he wants. Like he nearly did before. Only then pking stabbed him in the back...
Edit: you wont be able to revolt while pking is revolting. And they wont give you the opportunity to once he is dealt with. (He's working with them anyway)
Are you even paying attention?
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Reformatio stop cri
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लिखा द्वारा Phoenix, 27.08.2017 at 02:33
Leaving. Host is either bias or is inconsistent with own rules. The understanding was that vote ended at 4am gmt. The fact he manipulated us into using murder of tribune sooner on the basis "pking was in illyria and populares had no more tribunes" does not sit well with me.
His response to this was that populares had more cards and more money. However Aetius told me that the time deadline was put in place to prevent extended deadline bidding which reinforces the status quo.
I stuck around and worked my ass off to turn this game around on the basis that it was possible given that rule change. Which pavle had agreed to.
The game is enjoyable to a point and I appreciate the effort Aetius and others have put into it. But the rules need refining and need to be set and abided by consistently. Without host intervention of faction plans, for it to be worth playing.
There is also the issue of afk players... this prevented us being able to nominate a dictator which was an important compoment of our plans.
Gl hf.
Wow, no comment xd
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Look
populares played tribune, they grafted
populares played 2nd tribune, they murdered
populares played 3rd tribune, they had no more counter cards left
populares had all these 3 cards fairly before senate phase began, this was a plan of theirs for a long time, it was a costly one too by the way
note: I did NOT allow pking to use his tribune that was cancer, but 4nic, white army, and empi each had tribune and that was clear in forum phase to people paying attention (none of us were)
They wanted to murder at last second in a cheesy attempt to get by without having to have a third counter, when they should all be played at once.
If there is something wrong with this logic please let me know. If there is something else they could have done to win that was my fault, let me know. In chat I accidently told them they had no worries because I didn't realize they had a third tribune and I fully admit that was my mistake however they could have seen populares had three tribunes themselves too, so they didn't see it either. I don't believe that is fair to lay the blame on me, looking for a scapegoat. I have resolved to take a more hands off approach to the scheming of factions to prevent this. I hope JF returns (pls), and will keep his character frozen.
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!!!I TOLD YOU TO GO DIRECT CHARGE ZEPH!!!
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Ffs guys calm down, leaving is just gonna ruin the balance of power, aetius isnt even that biased, ive seen much worse even in official provincial level model un tournaments.
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I order the construction of two fleets to lead an invasion of Italy. It appears the current senate is too corrupt and damned by the gods.
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Battle of Zama
Lucius Cornellius Scipio (Zephyrusu) (Envelopment)
(14 Legions + 4 veteran legions +4 command)=24 strength
Hannibal (Flanking) TACTICAL COUNTER
(16 armies+7 command) = 23 strength
Battle Roll: 11 (+1 from greater strength-4 from tactical counter =8)
Result: Bloody Stalemate
Hannibal and Scipio met before the battle, Hannibal saying that the war was far from over and Scipio informing him he was wrong.
Neither side interfered in Numidia so both lacked powerful cavalry force. Regardless, Scipio attempted an envelopment of Hannibals army with the strongest parts of his army. However, on Hannibals right was placed all his elephants and his italic veterans. Their charge crushed Scipios left, specifically Legio III Sicilus. Seeing the battle line was now compromised, Scipio sent in reserves to hold and drive them back. Both sides withdrew after hours of fighting, but the romans suffered greater. Scipio was the first to not lose to Hannibal but clearly he had much to learn. His army retreated to Utica to lick their wounds and continue the campaign next year perhaps.
Roman Casualties
-4 Legions
Legio III Sicilus
Carthaginian Casualties
Fewer
Lucius Cornellius Scipio (Zephyrusu) gains a veteran legion, Legio VII Ignis
Lucius Cornellius Scipio (Zephyrusu) loses -3 popularity for losing 5 legions
Hannibal is contained in africa
* all units are stuck on this front due to this result, rebels may now move
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The Cult of Fenix hereby commissions the destruction of all false idols throughout Italy. We hope the people rally around our banners and that the one true God watches over us. We hereby commence Zeus to be crucified and burned alive. His sins shall be cleansed by fire and should the one true God will it, he shall burn in hell as he will on Earth.
FYI, anyone who is willingly captured will be given a full pardon if they prove they attempted to subvert the corrupt senate
If shown to be supportive of this new empire that is being born, you might be forgiven and therefor given command of governor post.
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Battle of Tarentine Gulf
Octavian Ovidius Fenix (Pheonixking929) (Envelopment) TACTICAL COUNTER
(2 Fleets +2 command) = 4 strength
Vinicius Florianus (Lord Zeus) (Direct Charge)
(1 fleet +1 command)=2 strength
Battle Roll: 9 (+2 from greater strength+4 from tactical counter =15)
Result: Victory
In a desperate attempt to take italy, Fenix launches a strike. The only available commander, Florianus sallies from the port of Taranto although Fenix was waiting, surrounded his fleet and defeated it with ease. His troops land and march to Rome. The entire senate has fled, Fenix now rules as King.
Senate Casualties
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None
Octavian Ovidius Fenix (Pheonixking929) has seized rome and become the official state, as Emperor/king/tyrant
Vinicius Florianus (Lord Zeus) has been captured
*all senators flee, all concessions are lost, elections have been cancelled, all titles lost, if rome is retaken the senate leader will nominate positions and elections will occur again.
Lucius Cornellius Scipio (Zephyrusu) has most influence, he is leader of exiled senate, he must pick a new capital province for the revolt
Exiled Senate -If Rome is taken the Senate becomes a "rebel", however senators do not lose half their equites. The senator with the most influence becomes the leader like a dictator. He may resign and appoint someone else, or the senate may nominate someone else and vote on it. He can't execute anyone but must always lead the main army.
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