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Consul Vote
1) Lucius Cornellius Scipio (Zephyrusu) + Flavius Paulius Myst (Pavle)
Censor Vote
1) Sulla Pisentius (White Army)
Praetor Vote
1) Labienus Julius (Labienus)
Replace Labienus Julius (Labienus) as commander of the 1st punic war with?
1)Consul, Sulla Pisentius (White Army)
Commander of the Syrian War?
1)Flavius Paulius Myst (Pavle) [populare candidate]
Commander of the Roman Civil War?
1)Consul, Marco Subsilva (Andartes)
Strategy? (pick carefully this choice will decide the game)
3)Alternate Pick: Build 7 Fleets+ 5 Legions: 3 Legions 5 Vets to Sicily, 2 Legions 4 Vets to Antiochus (both with fleets) (aetius added pick for 2 battle rolls)
Alotian land Bill (Tier III)
Effects: costs -10/year, Sponsor Slivious lectus Alotus gains +4 popularity, co-sponsor: Ioannes Benedictus +2 popularity, Rome will lose -3 unrest
1)Aye
Concessions:
Flavius Paulius Myst (Pavle) (backed by white army +7 votes)
Sulla Pisentius (White Army) (backed by white army +7 votes)
Marius Secundus Cocles (Empirezz) (backed by white army +7 votes)
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Dont be retarded to vote for hannibal
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लिखा द्वारा Brsjak, 19.08.2017 at 14:48
Dont be retarded to vote for hannibal
Hannibal for Consul
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Consul Vote
1) Lucius Cornellius Scipio (Zephyrusu) + Flavius Paulius Myst (Pavle)
Censor Vote
1) Sulla Pisentius (White Army)
Praetor Vote
1) Labienus Julius (Labienus)
Replace Labienus Julius (Labienus) as commander of the 1st punic war with?
1)Consul, Sulla Pisentius (White Army)
Commander of the Syrian War?
1)Flavius Paulius Myst (Pavle) [populare candidate]
Commander of the Roman Civil War?
1)Consul, Marco Subsilva (Andartes)
Consuls have chosen NOT to replace Lucius Cornellius Scipio (Zephyrusu) as commander of 2nd punic war?
Strategy? (pick carefully this choice will decide the game)
3)Alternate Pick: Build 7 Fleets+ 5 Legions: 3 Legions 5 Vets to Sicily, 2 Legions 4 Vets to Antiochus (both with fleets) (aetius added pick for 2 battle rolls)
Who will be granted Harbor Fees Concession?
*Flavius Paulius Myst (Pavle) (backed by white army +7 votes)
Who will be granted Land Comissioner Concession?
Sulla Pisentius (White Army) (backed by white army +7 votes)
Who will be granted Tax Farmer Concession?
Marius Secundus Cocles (Empirezz) (backed by white army +7 votes)
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Bribe 6 on First consul pair (with maximum of 20)
Bribe 3 on Syrian war command - Pavle (maximum of 10)
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Consul Vote
1) Lucius Cornellius Scipio (Zephyrusu) + Flavius Paulius Myst (Pavle)
Censor Vote
1) Sulla Pisentius (White Army)
Praetor Vote
1) Labienus Julius (Labienus)
Replace Labienus Julius (Labienus) as commander of the 1st punic war with?
1)Consul, Sulla Pisentius (White Army)
Commander of the Syrian War?
1)Flavius Paulius Myst (Pavle) [populare candidate]
Commander of the Roman Civil War?
1)Consul, Marco Subsilva (Andartes)
Strategy? (pick carefully this choice will decide the game)
3)Alternate Pick: Build 7 Fleets+ 5 Legions: 3 Legions 5 Vets to Sicily, 2 Legions 4 Vets to Antiochus (both with fleets) (aetius added pick for 2 battle rolls)
Alotian land Bill (Tier III)
Effects: costs -10/year, Sponsor Slivious lectus Alotus gains +4 popularity, co-sponsor: Ioannes Benedictus +2 popularity, Rome will lose -3 unrest
1)Aye
Concessions:
Flavius Paulius Myst (Pavle) (backed by white army +7 votes)
Sulla Pisentius (White Army) (backed by white army +7 votes)
Marius Secundus Cocles (Empirezz) (backed by white army +7 votes)
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It appears the Senate has refused any offers of cooperation with me. Therefor the mutineers have no choice but to order a blockade of the Adriatic sea, specifically all shipping lanes leading to the East. No vessel will be allowed to enter the Syrian War without the strict permission of the rebels. This is a formal warning: Any fleet that attempts to ignore this order will be intercepted and destroyed.
Should the Senate decide to cooperate, we will allow safe passage. Currently, the rebels are asking for about 70 talents in exchange for use of our waters and engaging the Syrians. Should you find this offer acceptable, all details will be worked out in detail. Engaging in the Syrian War is a red line. Cross it without the permission of the rebels and we will ensure not a single Roman steps foot off those boats. You've been warned. Do not test us. I have repeatedly said, privately and publicly, that I will cooperate with the Senate on certain issues and instead have been told to simply be quiet and waste away in Illyria until you come to take us by force. I will no longer allow this mockery to continue. I am offering an olive branch at the moment- don't think I won't order my fleets to attack.
The offer is a reasonable one. Refuse to discuss it and the price will only be raised.
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Everyone is living a myth and it's important to know what yours is. It could be a tragedy- and maybe you don't want it to be.
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==Turn 13: Phase 3 has begun==
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I am joining the rebellion. Darth will come with unless pking refuses?
Sorry guys but the alternative was option 2 wins consul and me and darth come back and help lower unrest with our popularity
But you all seem to have placed too much faith in pavle and theres a direct 50% chance that rome will die in forum phase because of his popularity
There is one other outcome that would secure the future of rome...
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I am moving my army to sicilian front.
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I concur with the wishes of Fenixs former oracle who has spoken above. No roman ships will be going to Syria without our permission.
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लिखा द्वारा Dereny, 20.08.2017 at 06:32
I concur with the wishes of Fenixs former oracle who has spoken above. No roman ships will be going to Syria without our permission.
Let them pass for 30 talents... pretty fair... same price pavle paid for legions
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As stated, if the senate wishes to negotiate on cost they may propose their own offer.
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I also donate what little wealth I possess to the rebellion. We will not falter until the wishes of the people are properly heard.
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लिखा द्वारा Dereny, 20.08.2017 at 06:52
As stated, if the senate wishes to negotiate on cost they may propose their own offer.
Go battle them yourself, you have negative treasure
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SInce the Senate has decided not to negotiate, we will have to take extreme measures. It is obvious the Senate will not allow the thought of peace talks or cooperation to cross their mind, therefor we must go on the war path. As of right now, the rebel fleet has been ordered to intercept any and all naval vessels leaving Roman ports. If you wish for this order to be rescinded, then negotiate with us. We have been more than willing to do this. Our patience is limited.
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You are at negative treasury the rebbelion will fail in 2-3 turns Illyricum cant fund the rebbelion if you want to take Rome Senate and the Rebels will die as well You can stop the rebbelion and give the troops to the senate insted of destroying Rome while it is in its toughest times your rebbelion will fail eaither way so will you stop blocking ports or be destroyed
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लिखा द्वारा Dereny, 20.08.2017 at 07:46
SInce the Senate has decided not to negotiate, we will have to take extreme measures. It is obvious the Senate will not allow the thought of peace talks or cooperation to cross their mind, therefor we must go on the war path. As of right now, the rebel fleet has been ordered to intercept any and all naval vessels leaving Roman ports. If you wish for this order to be rescinded, then negotiate with us. We have been more than willing to do this. Our patience is limited.
Your time is also limited.
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लिखा द्वारा JF., 20.08.2017 at 08:03
लिखा द्वारा Dereny, 20.08.2017 at 07:46
snip!
Your time is also limited.
By my calculations, all our time is limited by one phase if the Senate does not negotiate
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लिखा द्वारा Brsjak, 20.08.2017 at 08:02
You are at negative treasury the rebbelion will fail in 2-3 turns Illyricum cant fund the rebbelion if you want to take Rome Senate and the Rebels will die as well You can stop the rebbelion and give the troops to the senate insted of destroying Rome while it is in its toughest times your rebbelion will fail eaither way so will you stop blocking ports or be destroyed
I reckon I can say the same thing-negotiate or you will be destroyed.
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लिखा द्वारा Dereny, 20.08.2017 at 08:05
लिखा द्वारा JF., 20.08.2017 at 08:03
लिखा द्वारा Dereny, 20.08.2017 at 07:46
snip!
Your time is also limited.
By my calculations, all our time is limited by one phase if the Senate does not negotiate
Okay, we both die.
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The rebellion is happy to accept Darth and Phoenix into our ranks. WOrd has reached us that our ships have successfully transported his legion to Illyria.
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2nd Battle of Agrigentum
Sulla Pisentius (White Army) (Envelopment)
(5 Legions +8 veterans + 4 command+2 field consul bonus)=27 strength
Hasdrubal Gisco (Envelopment)
(10 Armies) + 3 command) = 13 strength
Battle Roll: 4 (+14 from greater strength=18)
Result: Decisive Victory
Hasdrubal reports suggested the roman army would be of inferior size, and he was ready to defeat them. To his shock though, it was now far larger than expected, reinforcement from italy had nearly doubled its strength, now it was of greater quality and quantity. Too late to retreat to city walls, Hasdrubal had no choice but to fight.
Both commanders opted to envelope each other which resulted in great amounts of fighting on the flanks. The veteran legions butchered the lightly armed iberians and libyan spearmen in this type of combat. The elephants were then used but the veteran legions did not panic and the beasts fled in short order.The carthaginians saw Hasdrubal was no Hamilcar, lack of inspired tactics and foolish mistakes. Consul Pisentius managed to surround the carthaginian army and captured Hasdrubal. Combined with roman naval superiority they had now captured the Carthaginian islands at long last.
Roman Casualties
Minimal
Carthaginian Casualties
Heavy
Sulla Pisentius (White Army) gains veteran legion, Legio VII Exercitus Albus
Sulla Pisentius (White Army) gains 5 Popularity and 5 Influence for victory
Rome gain -1 unrest for victory, 35 Talents in War Spoils, and the province of CORSICA-SARDINIA, and SICILY
Senate Redeployment Phase
The Senate orders
6 vets to rome
3 vets and 4 legions should stay - white army temporarily in command of sicily for the year (sicily has 2 provincial legions as well)
REBELS GOO
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After successful negotiations with the moderate wing of the Senate, even as more radical elements of populares sought to cause disaster, we have decided not to intercept Roman ships heading toward Sicily. The people of Rome deserve to be ruled by Romans- not foreigners.
With that said, we wish to recruit 4 legions of soldiers.
I will lead an invasion again the Syrians with all available ground troops. Tarquinius (Darth) will lead our fleet to crush the Senates navy.
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After meeting with spies, the rebel war council has decided to raise 5, not 4, legions. All forces will be sent to take Rome. While I am gone, Darth will remain as governor of Illyria
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Naval Battle of Brundisum
Sulla Pisentius (White Army) (Flanking)
(7 Fleets+4 command)=11 strength
? Tarquinius (Darth)(Direct Charge) Tactical counter
(12 Fleets+4 command) = 16 strength
Battle Roll: 12 (-5 from lesser strength -4 from tactical failure) =3
Result: Optimate Victory
The Optimates had decided that the march on Rome was their best hope. Hearing of this calamity, Sulla Pisentius who had recently defeated the Carthaginians and had the entire fleet under his command set sail for the eastern italy coast where he came upon Tarquinius with his larger fleet.
In a fast flanking attack he tried to sweep around the Optimates but Tarquinius did not allow this, striking quickly at the Roman center with his largest ships, boarding and killing. Pisentius, seeing utter defeat fled to shore and rode to rome with the terrible news.
Naval Interception of Optimate naval invasion has failed, they now march on rome with 10 legions and Legio I Primaris under command of Lucidius Derenius (Dereny) vs 6 Veteran Legions
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7 Fleets
Optimate Casualties
Few; captured ships replenish any losses
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Battle of Antium
Lucidius Derenius (Dereny)(Surprise Attack)
(10 Legions +1 veteran+5 command)=17 strength
Marius Secundus Cocles (Empirezz) (Envelopment) Tactical counter
(6 Veteran Legions +4 command ) = 16 strength
Battle Roll: 8 (+1 from greater strength -4 from tactical failure) =5
Result: Senate Victory
After the defeat at Brundisium the Senate was in panic, in addition to hannibal, the optimates were now in italy and marching to overthrow the corrupt senate in favor of tbe boy-imperator Fenix with his Regent Derenius. The optimate army was quite large, 33,000 against the 18,000 senate force, but many of the optimate forces were raw recruits.
In the Latium region, near Antium, Cocles set up a defensive position near the pomptine marshes and begun construction of wooden fortifications. The defenses were formidable, but Derenius believed a surprise attack could break through his line. Scouts reported a weak unguarded part of the wall, and there the attack began. The Legio I led the way and broke through to find that Cocles had intentionally weakened that part of the wall, they swiftly fall back knowing what was to occur. From both sides the veteran legions emerged and struck the Optimate forces, the raw legions panic and ran, many were slaughtered.. Derenius tried to tell them to keep fighting or all was lost but they didn't listen. Eventually, it was just him alone with his men. Cocles ordered Derenius chained , it was over. ..
Marius Secundus Cocles returned to Rome a hero, the savior just like his father was against the gauls!
Senate Casualties
Moderate, losses replenished from surrendered rebel legionnaires
Optimate Casualties
-10 legions, all surrendered or killed, Legio I Primaris survives though and retreats back to Illyricum on the fleet
Dereny captured, next year he will be put on trial for his crimes
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I propose a Tier III Land Bill with JF as co-sponsor.
Roll 3 for equite, 1 to faction bank.
I also propose we perma exile Dereney to one of our deserted islands and put a guard on him. Let him rot in the knowledge that SPQR is intact. Propose we do the same for rest of the rebel scum. Although I guess we could throw one off the rock to set an example.
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