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03.02.2016 - 15:37
Like forreal, are there people with thinking disabilities? This ''helpchat spammer'' only spams because he wants to piss off the moderators, people, and want people to comment on him in help. He wants people to tell him to stop etc. I mean seriously, how more you try to fight it how harder it becomes to actually fight it. Same with little children, if you say no, they will cry and yell, if you fall for that they will do it everytime they hear no, if you ignore them and let them cry/yell out, they will adventually notice it doesn't work. Same is for this ''helpchat spammer'' if you keep deleting his messages, keep banning him, keep muting him etc. he will come back stronger than before and spam more.

Stop being such a bunch of retards and actually think for once, instead of using your brains alot of people in this game are duped of the actions of some people, for example the filter thing.

I see threads with proposals like these:
लिखा द्वारा Tundy, 03.02.2016 at 14:48

There is the following options in the table:

A) Ranks 0 should be muted outside game chat.

B) Ranks 0 should have a more strict flood control outside of game chat.

C) Help chat should be invisible like mod chat.

D) Accounts that are less than 24 hours old should be muted from all but game chat.


लिखा द्वारा bargain, 03.02.2016 at 13:43

Just a simple suggestion. To use channels, e-mail verification must be required.


लिखा द्वारा 1GodofWar1, 03.02.2016 at 14:42

Here is an idea just delete the guest acc option i always found it stupid and for trolls...


Like seriously wtf is wrong with you people? If you actually change anything (like you stupid people already did) you just exactly do what you shouldn't do.

I mean face he facts, no mod or no admin is able to hold this guy, and he knows it, he actually told me himself in pr. Because I actually took only 5 mins to just pr him and ask him what he was going on for doing this. This game had several of people who deserved to get permanent banned but somehow ended up coming back because admins/mods were not able to keep them away from the game. They knew it, the helpchatspammer knows it, and alot of more people will know it.

Just ignore this dude and everything will be fine in some days or weeks. You guys act like helpchat did actually add something up to this game, still alot of people with questions and the helpchats got 9 out of 10 times trolled, so just forget it and mute the helpchat.
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लिखा द्वारा Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

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03.02.2016 - 15:51
What a helpful thread, thanks waffel
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03.02.2016 - 15:52
लिखा द्वारा Viruslegion, 03.02.2016 at 15:51

What a helpful thread, thanks waffel

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लिखा द्वारा Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

Waffel for mod 2015
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03.02.2016 - 15:57
Actually, I believe Waffel is totally right gj waffel!!
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03.02.2016 - 16:14
Nonsense, ignoring the problem won't make it go away. Doing nothing will only leave the door open for another low life to do the same in the not so distant future.
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03.02.2016 - 16:24
Let's be honest here, the guy is going to get bored at some point. I don't understand why his ip address just cant be permabanned
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03.02.2016 - 16:28
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Bingo is doing this because his main account was bann. he is protesting against his unfair treatment for being bann.
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03.02.2016 - 16:50
1. If you had done proper research you would already know that Cobra is no longer spamming chats(got unbanned). This is no longer a problem.

2. Once again with proper research or by simply using logic you would already know that both mods and admins are doing their best to provide a long-lasting solution to the problem. They aren't blind.

3. Was there seriously the need of making a new thread?
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03.02.2016 - 16:52
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लिखा द्वारा Meester, 01.02.2016 at 09:19

I want to make it clear the filter will remain on until a solution is found for the current help chat issue. Refrain from making threads about, your opinion does not matter.

Locked.
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03.02.2016 - 16:54
लिखा द्वारा Dereny, 03.02.2016 at 16:24

Let's be honest here, the guy is going to get bored at some point. I don't understand why his ip address just cant be permabanned


He keeps changing it or something.
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03.02.2016 - 16:55
लिखा द्वारा clovis1122, 03.02.2016 at 16:50

1. If you had done proper research you would already know that Cobra is no longer spamming chats(got unbanned). This is no longer a problem.

2. Once again with proper research or by simply using logic you would already know that both mods and admins are doing their best to provide a long-lasting solution to the problem. They aren't blind.

3. Was there seriously the need of making a new thread?

Actually yes, there was a need of making a new thread. Because if someone gets banned and starts spamming the helpchat again like he did, people will act the same. But no, the logic in this game is to award the person who did something wrong so he will stop being a pain in the ass. I mean obviously thats the way it works around here, right clovis?

So why dont you spare me your smartass comments and you go for once do some proper research about why the admins and the mods couldnt keep him banned or other people who just avoided the ip bans? And unban/reward them.
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लिखा द्वारा Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

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03.02.2016 - 17:06
In general, my little slave Waffel is right.

As a supporter, I didn't react anytime on his spam, but there are some people who gave that guy wind in back for doing such things.

Yes, with constant mentioning him, making 365 threads about him in forum, trying to stop him in Help channel, taking screenshot of every his message and muting his guest accounts you are just letting him know he took our attention and it's exactly what he searched for.
I don't say he mustn't be punished in certain way, but I am sure this is not the right one.
Chat filter? okay.
Ban? okay.
This amount of public attention? No, just no.

If only mods and admins (maybe supporters with them) can decide how to solve this on their own, secretly. The rest of community is not needed in this case. I am sure there is a way, but for fucking sake stop all these threads, contacts and warns on him, we got it.
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03.02.2016 - 17:10
Can you make this novel shorter? maybe fit it all into 1 sentence?
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03.02.2016 - 17:14
लिखा द्वारा Waffel, 03.02.2016 at 16:55

Actually yes, there was a need of making a new thread. Because if someone gets banned and starts spamming the helpchat again like he did, people will act the same. But no, the logic in this game is to award the person who did something wrong so he will stop being a pain in the ass. I mean obviously thats the way it works around here, right clovis?

So why dont you spare me your smartass comments and you go for once do some proper research about why the admins and the mods couldnt keep him banned or other people who just avoided the ip bans? And unban/reward them.


Oh my gawl sorry waffel, I forgot that admins were your personal slaves that only works in the game and have no life *sarcasm* *cough cough*

On the other hand:

*Unbanning Cobra cost $0, mods lose nothing by doing it.
*Requires no admin's time
*Can be easy remade if Cobra decides to break his promise
*Stop Cobra from spamming the help channel (which kinda solves the issue until a new troll appears).

Seems perfectly reasonable for me.
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03.02.2016 - 17:15
लिखा द्वारा clovis1122, 03.02.2016 at 16:50

3. Was there seriously the need of making a new thread?


Yes, there was a need and I see you still didn't catch a point of it.
Whatsmore, you are taking wrong side of story with indirect originating people to avoid punishments. Also, showing them an exact way how to do it
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03.02.2016 - 17:20
लिखा द्वारा Croat, 03.02.2016 at 17:15

लिखा द्वारा clovis1122, 03.02.2016 at 16:50

3. Was there seriously the need of making a new thread?


Yes, there was a need and I ses you still didn't catch a point of it


1. Will it make admins to quit their jobs and implement a fix to this issue?
2. Will it help to solve the issue in less time?
3. Will it be any more beneficial than posting in the already existing threads?

3x no. Please explain me how making a thread to call out everybody retard, complain about an issue and quote the already posted suggestions helps to fix the issue.
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03.02.2016 - 17:22
लिखा द्वारा Croat, 03.02.2016 at 17:15

Whatsmore, you are taking wrong side of story with indirect originating people to avoid punishments. Also, showing them a way how to do it


Nice edit.

I don't support Cobra's spam nor think that he deserves to be unbanned. But if that is the only solution to the spam then yes, I don't see any problem with unbanning him.

Read my comment again.
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03.02.2016 - 17:35
लिखा द्वारा clovis1122, 03.02.2016 at 17:22

लिखा द्वारा Croat, 03.02.2016 at 17:15

Whatsmore, you are taking wrong side of story with indirect originating people to avoid punishments. Also, showing them a way how to do it


Nice edit.

I don't support Cobra's spam nor think that he deserves to be unbanned. But if that is the only solution to the spam then yes, I don't see any problem with unbanning him.

Read my comment again.


Dude, sometimes I really doubt are you fucking serious or you just want to troll me..

If you are supporting this way of avoiding punishment, especially the hardest one - BAN, then you are supporting the fact that Moderators are not needed in this game.
I mean, they can be here only to ban someone who will be unbanned after few days of spam because it is the only way to solve it?!

Well, something is wrong in your logic.
And remember, Admins and Moderators are people, same as you and me. They are making wrong decisions same as you and me, so stop catching on everything they do like monkey catches banana.

This was not proper decision, another solution must be done (in which Cobra will rest in perma ban)
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03.02.2016 - 17:41
लिखा द्वारा Croat, 03.02.2016 at 17:35

If you are supporting this way of avoiding punishment, especially the hardest one - BAN, then you are supporting the fact that Moderators are not needed in this game.


लिखा द्वारा clovis1122, 03.02.2016 at 17:22

I don't support Cobra's spam nor think that he deserves to be unbanned. But if that is the only solution to the spam then yes, I don't see any problem with unbanning him.


You got me wrong, should'be read my comment again as I said.

लिखा द्वारा Croat, 03.02.2016 at 17:35

another solution must be done


Suggestions are welcome. As long as you don't make a thread like this one.

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लिखा द्वारा Croat, 03.02.2016 at 17:35

I mean, they can be here only to ban someone who will be unbanned after few days of spam because it is the only way to solve it?!


Moderator's duty is not to ban people. Their duty is to preserve a good health in the community to which they were given the tools for.
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03.02.2016 - 17:47
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लिखा द्वारा clovis1122, 03.02.2016 at 17:22

I don't support Cobra's spam nor think that he deserves to be unbanned. But if that is the only solution to the spam then yes, I don't see any problem with unbanning him.


You got me wrong, should'be read my comment again as I said.


Look at your comments and opinions, just look them.
Only thing you are doing is overflowing from the sand in the desert, nothing useful is in them.
Also, you're constantly trying to sit on 2 chairs at same moment, but it's not how the things work, trust me
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03.02.2016 - 17:52
लिखा द्वारा Croat, 03.02.2016 at 17:47

लिखा द्वारा clovis1122, 03.02.2016 at 17:22

लिखा द्वारा clovis1122, 03.02.2016 at 17:22

I don't support Cobra's spam nor think that he deserves to be unbanned. But if that is the only solution to the spam then yes, I don't see any problem with unbanning him.


You got me wrong, should'be read my comment again as I said.


Look at your comments and opinions, just look them.
Only thing you are doing is overflowing from the sand in the desert, nothing useful is in them.
Also, you're constantly trying to sit on 2 chairs at same moment, but it's not how the things work, trust me


I've fixed this for you.

You're welcome.
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03.02.2016 - 17:55
लिखा द्वारा DeepFriedUnicorn, 03.02.2016 at 16:54

लिखा द्वारा Dereny, 03.02.2016 at 16:24

Let's be honest here, the guy is going to get bored at some point. I don't understand why his ip address just cant be permabanned


He keeps changing it or something.

that's disgusting
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03.02.2016 - 18:00
लिखा द्वारा clovis1122, 03.02.2016 at 17:41

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I mean, they can be here only to ban someone who will be unbanned after few days of spam because it is the only way to solve it?!


Moderator's duty is not to ban people. Their duty is to preserve a good health in the community to which they were given the tools for.


OH, SHIT, WHY I NOTICED THIS EDIT.

So, moderator's duty is not to ban people but to preserve a good health of the community with their tools?

And what is ban?
-It's a moderators tool for preserving a good health of the community

And what if someone is ruining good health of community?
-Mods will use their tool to stop him, right?

And what if Mods strongest tool for preserving a good health of community is just useless?
-Then happens this case where you see that Mods actually cannot preserve a good health of community, so we came on conclusion that MODS ARE USELESS because they just cannot do their job properly. There is a hole somewhere which must be closed by another solution and NOT BY THIS ONE WHICH YOU ARE SUPPORTING.



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03.02.2016 - 18:01
The more people hear about this guy and the more he gets "rewarded"(attention) for his spamming the more he thinks he is having an affect on the game as a whole so the more he'll do it and the more he'll laugh,
I haven't been on game recently or witnessed this and i'm not trying to insult the fella but his life probably is THAT sad that he gets a buzz out of getting around the authority figures in THIS game. (mods/admins)

Best thing that could've been done is ignore the guy but now that there are threads galore, a filter feature and people asking him why he's doing it, I bet he feels like some kind of legend. You effectively ruled out your one shot at getting rid of him easily by giving him shit tonnes of attention.
I mean seriuosly the guy is an internet troll he goes on the internet and trolls people that is all he does he goes after easy targets and ooh bio this game turned out to be not only easy but juicy as fuck as well.
congratulations guys you got yourself a full time troll for the game.

If the authoriy figure actually can't do anything about this guy then they should never have tried, the fact they have and now there are threads'n'shit that its been set in this lads head that he will get a rise out of this community. The only way this should have been dealt with is by ignoring the guy he'd have gotten bored eventually but now i feel like we're are looking at a situation where we are going to have to wait for this guy to get bored himself of what he is doing or finds something similar to do on another site and all because people couldn't act maturely and just let him burn himself out.

Does the help channel even matter that much? i sure as hell never used it and as far as i can remember i've rarely seen anyone use it legitimately.
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लिखा द्वारा Netre, 03.02.2016 at 18:01

i sure as hell never used it and as far as i can remember i've rarely seen anyone use it legitimately.


Other people does however, specially beginners.

If mods had locked this type of thread ASAP they were made the "attention" problem would'be been solved very fast. This isn't only a thread to bash everybody but also useless. One thread (and in the worst, two threads) to the same subject should'be enough.
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03.02.2016 - 18:15
I will give my best to force Admins on implementing IQ check before someone opens forums or chats, I swear to God. All those people with IQ lower then 110 will be forbidden of using chats and forums.
It will stop these banned retards who are spamming chats to get unbanned and also it will stop our nerves getting burned after seeing clovis' semi-retarded quotes
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03.02.2016 - 18:34


go Waffel... GOOO !!
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03.02.2016 - 18:36
लिखा द्वारा clovis1122, 03.02.2016 at 18:07

लिखा द्वारा Netre, 03.02.2016 at 18:01






If mods had locked this type of thread ASAP they were made the "attention" problem would'be been solved very fast. This isn't only a thread to bash everybody but also useless. One thread (and in the worst, two threads) to the same subject should'be enough.


The attention wasn't given to him through these threads the attention was is gained by him when the mods decided to bring in new feature's designed solely in response to him. Do you think that the censorship feature is lost on him. he knows he can get away with what he is doing because he's been shown he can get away with it by response's that are half cocked and lacking in decisiveness allowing him to come back again and again.

The mods could've and probably should've locked the threads, yea, in the beginning when they were complaint threads directed at the spammer but i'd imagine its too late now to ponder what if's and fairly irrelevant to come out with it half way down the conversation!

Now this thread exists because of the spammer but is actually a response to the actions of the part of the community who had engaged him and to be fair that is something i would actually like to know.
Why when people see a troll doing things for attention would you ever in a million years give that person attention????.

The stupidity is palpable and whats more is i'm actually more annoyed with that type of stupidity than i am with a troll. a troll just demonstrates just how sad his life is which makes me feel bad for him to a degree but when people act stupid it just means they aren't willing to think which depresses me to think that there are people in the world who will point blank refuse to use their brain..
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लिखा द्वारा Netre, 03.02.2016 at 18:36

The attention wasn't given to him through these threads the attention was is gained by him when the mods decided to bring in new feature's designed solely in response to him. Do you think that the censorship feature is lost on him.


The 'censorship' feature exist from some months ago, just that we never got notified about it. I kinda agree with the rest.
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