What the cw season has become

It seems that the theme of the cw season for the "top" teams is "Who can farm the best then avoid any game that might remotely present the danger of a loss". Lets take a look at the champions elect, Illyria.Observing their 20 cw's that count, six(6) against MK- the team that was banned and of course have no chance to compete for any prize,( so I guess nothing to lose for MK if they lose all cw to Illy). Five(5) against Winterfell, I must contact Ferlucci and hormi and ask what is the secret to receive such an honour and opportunity to challenge the mighty Illyrians on so many occasions since it appears impossible for SOM to play even one game. It appears even the leaders/officers of Optisami have superior skills in negotiation since even they were at least afforded the opportunity to play. I will be speaking to these guys soon to understand what they have that we clearly lack and seek to learn from them.

Then we have CT the teams in second place. At least the approach of CT is slightly different, the leaders/officer of CT dont say point blank"no cw", they at least give the impression of a cw be it via pr or global notwithstanding the fact that when whenever we actually appear for said cw ppl disappear or it is cancelled for one reason or another( some rather embarrassing but what was said in private I will leave there for the time being). I thought cw was about good fun challenges and that sort of thing but it appears that there are mostly pretenders more concerned with a trophy by any means. Of course all of this is further indication of course that the cw system needs changing but this was already known, more within our control is the spirit of the players and the general attitude towards cw.

Love Mou or hate him, while we may think that evol won due to a flawed system or not, Evol PLAY, they played all in the last season and still make themselves available, and I am sure Mou might love the opp to play Illy also, I dont know how even he could be denied the opportunity after all that nice fertilizer and effort he spent last season on the Iands of Ilyria .
Do I think SOM are better than Illy? OF COURSE NOT! Actually far from it , Do I think we can actually play a game and maybe offer some sort of fight , of that I think we have a chance.It seems to play though we have no chance,. Maybe some clan should find someone to beat 20-0 in the next couple days and I think the champions elect might suddenly from no where find appetite to play .This is the only competition I can think of where position 1 can be there without even playing the no2 &3. Well what can we do? I guess I can make a post so I share my thoughts, have it trolled by a few and soon enough eventually locked due to irrelevance or trolling. Anyway enough said.

What is the point of this thread?
I dont see how you can blame coalition for not wanting to play cw's if they already have secured first 3 places. There is like... 8 days till new season begins, plus i didnt saw your clan cw a lot so idk why is this such a problem for you? Wait 8 days or something, play vs clan who isnt in first 3 places or idk, do w/e you want to do.
About those 6 wins illy gained vs us in last 20 games, it was all legit, they played better and won games. We didnt 'gave' point to anyone. Its such a stupid accusation from you.
Again, maybe a get it wrong but pls, enlighten me, the point of this thread?

लिखा द्वारा Silent One_deleted, 22.08.2014 at 11:55

It seems that the theme of the cw season for the "top" teams is "Who can farm the best then avoid any game that might remotely present the danger of a loss". Lets take a look at the champions elect, Illyria.Observing their 20 cw's that count, six(6) against MK- the team that was banned and of course have no chance to compete for any prize,( so I guess nothing to lose for MK if they lose all cw to Illy). Five(5) against Winterfell, I must contact Ferlucci and hormi and ask what is the secret to receive such an honour and opportunity to challenge the mighty Illyrians on so many occasions since it appears impossible for SOM to play even one game. It appears even the leaders/officers of Optisami have superior skills in negotiation since even they were at least afforded the opportunity to play. I will be speaking to these guys soon to understand what they have that we clearly lack and seek to learn from them.

Then we have CT the teams in second place. At least the approach of CT is slightly different, the leaders/officer of CT dont say point blank"no cw", they at least give the impression of a cw be it via pr or global notwithstanding the fact that when whenever we actually appear for said cw ppl disappear or it is cancelled for one reason or another( some rather embarrassing but what was said in private I will leave there for the time being). I thought cw was about good fun challenges and that sort of thing but it appears that there are mostly pretenders more concerned with a trophy by any means. Of course all of this is further indication of course that the cw system needs changing but this was already known, more within our control is the spirit of the players and the general attitude towards cw.

Love Mou or hate him, while we may think that evol won due to a flawed system or not, Evol PLAY, they played all in the last season and still make themselves available, and I am sure Mou might love the opp to play Illy also, I dont know how even he could be denied the opportunity after all that nice fertilizer and effort he spent last season on the Iands of Ilyria .
Do I think SOM are better than Illy? OF COURSE NOT! Actually far from it , Do I think we can actually play a game and maybe offer some sort of fight , of that I think we have a chance.It seems to play though we have no chance,. Maybe some clan should find someone to beat 20-0 in the next couple days and I think the champions elect might suddenly from no where find appetite to play .This is the only competition I can think of where position 1 can be there without even playing the no2 &3. Well what can we do? I guess I can make a post so I share my thoughts, have it trolled by a few and soon enough eventually locked due to irrelevance or trolling. Anyway enough said.

im sorry silent but this annoyed me

in reference to your first paragraph whether mk had nothing to lose is irrelevant as we certainly did when we played them. we played every clan that was interested in cwing us, we didnt shy away from anyone or any map. and mk didnt hold back either, even mauzer admits we're the best clan atm.

3 of the 5 cws against winterfell were on ancient world, a map where few of our members have any experience on. indeed our only loss this season in the past 20 cws was on an ancient world cw, as winterfell are more experienced on that map.

in reference to your second paragraph crimson tide are a joke, even now they seek 20:0, an empty achievement when you look at their last 20 cws in comparison to ours. but they have no shame, since their initial win vs us at the start of the season they have refused cws vs us, until eventually it became apparent their only hope at the trophy was with a victory over us. then they attempted to choose who played in the cw for us. you yourself have admitted they wont play you guys in cws anymore for fear of defeat. if we play you and lose, chances are theyll take the season from farming weak clans.

as for MOU evol only cotinued to play while their no.1 trophy was untouchable, i will concede that mou was willing to give it to mk though at the end, against the wishes of some of his clanmates. but hes not perfect so dont go mounting him on a pedestal just yet.

as it stands illyria is the only top clan without a number 1 trophy, we created the training clan to train up new members to hopefully eventually add some new talent to the main clan, so far weve indeed been successful. but it will be far easier to attract newer members when we have a season win under our belt. new players who will be ignorant of the reality that with the current system, such trophies are meaningless. but it will make it easier to stop sm and mk stealing our members :S.

but i will not apologise for not cw'ing you guys until the new season, you had the best part of 3 months to play us, indeed in that time i have asked you to cw, and you felt you were not ready for us. optipisani and winterfell have no special negotiating skills, they merely asked us to cw while we were still playing them.

we have nothing to prove, we have beaten all the top clans consistently and raised our comp up to 3.18, there is now nothing to be gained for us from further cws this season.

ps i hadnt responded to your mail because we might still cw you guys, but im waiting to see how CTs farming goes, whatever happens this season i do NOT want to see them winning. if it becomes apparent that crimson have no hope of winning then by all means, we'll cw you guys.

Looking at CT's way of doing things does seem shameful to some extent. It's the way they've always done things though.

Illyria deserve the best in this season. They've worked hard for it. Each CW with them has been met with competition in mind.

It will bring Stalins Martians the greatest shame to lose our most CW's played to Illyria later. Perhaps we'll put up a struggle to keep ourselves +100 over the next clan, just to see how long it'll last.

लिखा द्वारा Desu, 22.08.2014 at 13:23

Looking at CT's way of doing things does seem shameful to some extent. It's the way they've always done things though.

Illyria deserve the best in this season. They've worked hard for it. Each CW with them has been met with competition in mind.

It will bring Stalins Martians the greatest shame to lose our most CW's played to Illyria later. Perhaps we'll put up a struggle to keep ourselves +100 over the next clan, just to see how long it'll last.

I don't care for 90% of the people in Illyria, but for anyone here to say that they are undeserving of the season championship, they must be certifiably insane. Even if Mortal Kombat was allowed to CW this season, Illyria was the best clan. Period. So please stop with the stupid threads.

We lost motivation to play seriously after ban.

Still Ilyria is best clan in current season.

लिखा द्वारा Permamuted, 22.08.2014 at 13:00

in reference to your second paragraph crimson tide are a joke, even now they seek 20:0, an empty achievement when you look at their last 20 cws in comparison to ours. but they have no shame, since their initial win vs us at the start of the season they have refused cws vs us, until eventually it became apparent their only hope at the trophy was with a victory over us. then they attempted to choose who played in the cw for us. you yourself have admitted they wont play you guys in cws anymore for fear of defeat. if we play you and lose, chances are theyll take the season from farming weak clans.

I see a lot of clans today have got some amount of negativity today about CT. I want to apologize today for whatever we might have done to
cause such response. CW is the only thing to win for clans and every clan usually want to try to take it more seriously to win it. We are no different than any others (maybe some I dunno). But that is not the point, whatever it might be that you think is wrong with us you tell us we will try improve on that and better ourselves. If we are going to be bitching about we will be bitching about it for the rest of our lives. I could have clearly posted on some points on why I hate illyria for not cwing us but I am not going to be do that any more.

There are certain points where I clearly disagree with you. You say we cw you at the start of the season but we refused to cw you later on when it became apparent that the only way to beat you is by cwing you. This is generalising a bit too far. You are one of the best clans like MK and to cw we will want out best to play in them in order to stand a chance. I dunno what you can find wrong with that. But at the precise moment you want the cw we might not be having any of our best players online. Or maybe someone has to leave in 10 mins. There can be many actually other reasons which does not have anything to do with the competition. We cwed you before , we would love to do it again. Off course you guys are one of best clans so will want some of best in the cws. I dunno what you can find wrong in that. About us not cwing state of mind EAB told me and buff to come online later today to cw. They both didn't. Probably forgot had some work(dunno think whatever you want) but that is nothing do with all this useless bitching we have here.

At the end of the day every clan will want to win which is what it is all about. Yes I only told my clan members not to cw any more once we reach 1st and we did, we had 16:4 same as you guys but we had some 20 points more(as far as I could remember) and somewhere 850-880 points. At this precise point our motive is to win the cw season and unless any clan topped our points there was no point cwing. I didn't expect you guys to better that but you did that remarkably well(I was afk during that time). 19:1 is just too good to be true. This is a point where we truly have to fight you guys to win and we wanted to. From what I know you guys don't want to either. Don't take take this the wrong way but if you not going to cw if you have an advantage you can't blame us when we try the same as well. So yeah we are now trying to topple the target you set for us. We would love to fight you (obviously no brainer there) and we would try to avoid the best clans when we don't have our best players present as well.

See all this bitching about clans is mute in the first place and these discussions isn't going to go anywhere. I can probably form a clan some 8 hours before the season ends and use to farm and make CT the winner. Even Mods won't be able to do anything as all the cws would look genuine and be genuine. All that is possible but we won't ,neither would any other clan. Most people here in this forums would probably also agree that the cw system we have here is the joke. The last 20 cw clearly won't tell who is the best clan and 20 is far too short a number. This is something we can all agree but can't do anything about. If it were 50 maybe 60 cw you guys would probably again be winners but we wouldn't be far behind either trying make up all over again.

My point being forget all this bitching and take the best the game has to offer

tl dr :::: 1) if we are going to be bitching we will probably be doing that for the rest our our life ( please lets not)
2) take the game a bit more sportingly. Remember you set us a target and we would do what we can to get there

लिखा द्वारा Silent One_deleted, 22.08.2014 at 11:55

It seems that the theme of the cw season for the "top" teams is "Who can farm the best then avoid any game that might remotely present the danger of a loss". Lets take a look at the champions elect, Illyria.Observing their 20 cw's that count, six(6) against MK- the team that was banned and of course have no chance to compete for any prize,( so I guess nothing to lose for MK if they lose all cw to Illy). Five(5) against Winterfell, I must contact Ferlucci and hormi and ask what is the secret to receive such an honour and opportunity to challenge the mighty Illyrians on so many occasions since it appears impossible for SOM to play even one game. It appears even the leaders/officers of Optisami have superior skills in negotiation since even they were at least afforded the opportunity to play. I will be speaking to these guys soon to understand what they have that we clearly lack and seek to learn from them.

Then we have CT the teams in second place. At least the approach of CT is slightly different, the leaders/officer of CT dont say point blank"no cw", they at least give the impression of a cw be it via pr or global notwithstanding the fact that when whenever we actually appear for said cw ppl disappear or it is cancelled for one reason or another( some rather embarrassing but what was said in private I will leave there for the time being). I thought cw was about good fun challenges and that sort of thing but it appears that there are mostly pretenders more concerned with a trophy by any means. Of course all of this is further indication of course that the cw system needs changing but this was already known, more within our control is the spirit of the players and the general attitude towards cw.

Love Mou or hate him, while we may think that evol won due to a flawed system or not, Evol PLAY, they played all in the last season and still make themselves available, and I am sure Mou might love the opp to play Illy also, I dont know how even he could be denied the opportunity after all that nice fertilizer and effort he spent last season on the Iands of Ilyria .
Do I think SOM are better than Illy? OF COURSE NOT! Actually far from it , Do I think we can actually play a game and maybe offer some sort of fight , of that I think we have a chance.It seems to play though we have no chance,. Maybe some clan should find someone to beat 20-0 in the next couple days and I think the champions elect might suddenly from no where find appetite to play .This is the only competition I can think of where position 1 can be there without even playing the no2 &3. Well what can we do? I guess I can make a post so I share my thoughts, have it trolled by a few and soon enough eventually locked due to irrelevance or trolling. Anyway enough said.

Thing is any clan will want to win if they are close enough. You have a great chance too. Just try play as many cw as possible in the effect of gaining more points.

The cw system we have is no brainer. Everyone knows 20 cws are far too less to make an judgements about who is best clan. Think of a hypothetical scenario where 2 new clans X and Y joined tomorrow. They are very noob clans who know each other and just want to play each other and no one else in fear of getting beaten. X beats Y 20 times to make more points than any other clans such as us. X will be crowned champions even though they faced no one significant. That is how stupid our cw system is. There is nothing we can do about this.

And please don't consider playing Winterfell the same as farming, that will be taking things a bit too far. As far as we are concerned you will find we played almost all clans in last 20 cws lost some won some.

Its not the fact that you played Winterfell should be considered as farming. Fact that you've played as ranks 10 10 8 vs 8 8 8 and by that ranks 10's were way more better then any of their ranks 8 should be considered as farm. Even your rank 8 could be considered as better then their.

The only reason CT is #2 is because we lost a cw to evol when our teammate jugers dc turn 5. Anyway, ill explain the reason why we have cwed weak clans.

During the day if you may or may not know with USA time, most of our players are offline. At night we get around 6-8 players online and the only clans we find avaible are these clans you mentioned above. When i have a day off from work and im home, i ask Illy or any other clan to cw us in global. The reponse i had from illyria is NO cw and joed posting a screenshot of season ranking . Illy members admited theirself that they wont cw anymore after #1 so no point of asking illy for cw.

We have cwed every clan avaible we found so far when we had players online. As minuseven mentioned above, to cw the best clans we need the best players. I certanly cannot risk lossing #2 to cw MK with CT members who are not that strong enough for MK. Thats not called being coward its called being smart. When we have best players online we can cw best clans withotu a problem.

Stop hatting CT for being #2. Last season we were #3. Most of you posting here havent even been in top 3 these last 2 season.

लिखा द्वारा Desu, 22.08.2014 at 13:23

Looking at CT's way of doing things does seem shameful to some extent. It's the way they've always done things though.

Illyria deserve the best in this season. They've worked hard for it. Each CW with them has been met with competition in mind.

It will bring Stalins Martians the greatest shame to lose our most CW's played to Illyria later. Perhaps we'll put up a struggle to keep ourselves +100 over the next clan, just to see how long it'll last.

Desu your Audacity is outstanding. I'm reading your demeaning response with all the recollection of our asking for clan wars, and you saying no. The ones we've played are overwhelmingly in our favor. If a clan says no to a cw, they say no. I will not have a superiority complex on which clans have the prompt apptitude to play us. If you message us, and we feel up to it we will clan war. In terms of playing you guys again it would be like farming winterfell at this point. Its a shame that you can see yourself in a light that faded along time ago.

लिखा द्वारा Silent One_deleted, 22.08.2014 at 11:55

It seems that the theme of the cw season for the "top" teams is "Who can farm the best then avoid any game that might remotely present the danger of a loss". Lets take a look at the champions elect, Illyria.Observing their 20 cw's that count, six(6) against MK- the team that was banned and of course have no chance to compete for any prize,( so I guess nothing to lose for MK if they lose all cw to Illy). Five(5) against Winterfell, I must contact Ferlucci and hormi and ask what is the secret to receive such an honour and opportunity to challenge the mighty Illyrians on so many occasions since it appears impossible for SOM to play even one game. It appears even the leaders/officers of Optisami have superior skills in negotiation since even they were at least afforded the opportunity to play. I will be speaking to these guys soon to understand what they have that we clearly lack and seek to learn from them.

Then we have CT the teams in second place. At least the approach of CT is slightly different, the leaders/officer of CT dont say point blank"no cw", they at least give the impression of a cw be it via pr or global notwithstanding the fact that when whenever we actually appear for said cw ppl disappear or it is cancelled for one reason or another( some rather embarrassing but what was said in private I will leave there for the time being). I thought cw was about good fun challenges and that sort of thing but it appears that there are mostly pretenders more concerned with a trophy by any means. Of course all of this is further indication of course that the cw system needs changing but this was already known, more within our control is the spirit of the players and the general attitude towards cw.

Love Mou or hate him, while we may think that evol won due to a flawed system or not, Evol PLAY, they played all in the last season and still make themselves available, and I am sure Mou might love the opp to play Illy also, I dont know how even he could be denied the opportunity after all that nice fertilizer and effort he spent last season on the Iands of Ilyria .
Do I think SOM are better than Illy? OF COURSE NOT! Actually far from it , Do I think we can actually play a game and maybe offer some sort of fight , of that I think we have a chance.It seems to play though we have no chance,. Maybe some clan should find someone to beat 20-0 in the next couple days and I think the champions elect might suddenly from no where find appetite to play .This is the only competition I can think of where position 1 can be there without even playing the no2 &3. Well what can we do? I guess I can make a post so I share my thoughts, have it trolled by a few and soon enough eventually locked due to irrelevance or trolling. Anyway enough said.

SOM you're very presumptuous. I have asked you to clan war on multiple occasions. Your answer always presumes we're avoiding members of som. That is strictly not so. What are we to fear? I want to understand where you get the idea that your clan is better than winterfell or any of those on atwar? Do you think your playing styles live up to your mind set? I mean I could argue that illyriafication is stronger than you in playing style. What would you say then we're dodging you? Where do you get the right?

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लिखा द्वारा minusSeven, 22.08.2014 at 16:11

you have players with big egos and even bigger mouths, not a good combination. you minus arent a part of the problem at all.

but a lot of what you said is not true, when you guys asked for a cw recently you had the majority of your members on. yet you actually attempted to pick our members for us. khal had no gen at the time and was rusty yet you were demanding he play and were refusing any combination of myself acquiesce or syrian.

and please commando, do not attempt to make excuses, we all saw that post by innate from your clan forums.

and just look at your last 20 cws in comparison with ours, it basically sums everything up.


yours :



ours:




i myself have made numerous attempts at getting you guys to cw us over the season only to be met with excuses, comando eagle himself would often open a cw just to troll us.

dont even try to justify yourselves with excuses, youre fooling nobody.

लिखा द्वारा Spart, 22.08.2014 at 16:09

I don't care for 90% of the people in Illyria, but for anyone here to say that they are undeserving of the season championship, they must be certifiably insane. Even if Mortal Kombat was allowed to CW this season, Illyria was the best clan. Period. So please stop with the stupid threads.

best post ive seen so far

I disagree that illyria deserve 1st place. Even though I love illyria, they got in my opinion, 3 unfair win against syndicate:

1) Joed ask us for cw. They say lOrd is hollister and syrian is syrian. We agree. In the middle of cw they say syrian is hollister and lOrd is lOrd. Cool, the problem comes in the second cw when tunc fell that it was syrian playing. I proved it putting a fake message: " Btw, hope you guys dont get mad because I called a Mod for confilm if syrian is syrian" In the middle of cw. They say " No. Syrian is syrian. We only say that for the last cw. " Nice rank abuse and switching account on a CW.

2) A cleary victory from syndicate, Stealed by own laochra. Then come with cheap argument's like " Ankara was not walled" " Shut up". Very cool. Poor Tuncbey.

3) Syrian serbia wall against me, stealing all the chances of victory. COOL VERY COOL. SOOOOOO COOOOOL.

Illyria may be the 1st clan of this season, but a clan that do cheap tricks like rewall and serbia wall doesnt deserve to be the best clan of this season. I agree in the part that you could do everything,

Oh and stopping cw? that is understandeable, but again, not very nice. Why Clans like evoL keep cwing even though they are at rank disadvantage and they was number 1? Because evoL deserve to be the best clan that atWar have not only in this season, but the previous season too. Even syndicate in past times had 1250 CP, number 1 and we still were looking for cw (ilmo the second clan had like 800 CP).

लिखा द्वारा Permamuted, 22.08.2014 at 17:30

लिखा द्वारा minusSeven, 22.08.2014 at 16:11

you have players with big egos and even bigger mouths, not a good combination. you minus arent a part of the problem at all.

but a lot of what you said is not true, when you guys asked for a cw recently you had the majority of your members on. yet you actually attempted to pick our members for us. khal had no gen at the time and was rusty yet you were demanding he play and were refusing any combination of myself acquiesce or syrian.

and please commando, do not attempt to make excuses, we all saw that post by innate from your clan forums.

and just look at your last 20 cws in comparison with ours, it basically sums everything up.


yours :



ours:




i myself have made numerous attempts at getting you guys to cw us over the season only to be met with excuses, comando eagle himself would often open a cw just to troll us.

dont even try to justify yourselves with excuses, youre fooling nobody.

just saying 1 thing, that image about what innate said is from February so it has nothing to do with the summer season

If you ask Ferlucci for a CW, he will always accept, so playing Winterfell is kinda like farming at this point

लिखा द्वारा Rin Tohsaka, 22.08.2014 at 19:27

If you ask Ferlucci for a CW, he will always accept, so playing Winterfell is kinda like farming at this point

only clan we've beaten ^

लिखा द्वारा clovis1122, 22.08.2014 at 18:57

I disagree that illyria deserve 1st place. Even though I love illyria, they got in my opinion, 3 unfair win against syndicate:

1) Joed ask us for cw. They say lOrd is hollister and syrian is syrian. We agree. In the middle of cw they say syrian is hollister and lOrd is lOrd. Cool, the problem comes in the second cw when tunc fell that it was syrian playing. I proved it putting a fake message: " Btw, hope you guys dont get mad because I called a Mod for confilm if syrian is syrian" In the middle of cw. They say " No. Syrian is syrian. We only say that for the last cw. " Nice rank abuse and switching account on a CW. This has already be reported. If there is a rule which doesnt allow account information transfer WHY THESES PLAYERS ARE NOT BANNED YET!??!?!?

2) A cleary victory from syndicate, Stealed by own laochra. Then come with cheap argument's like " Ankara was not walled" " Shut up". Very cool. Poor Tuncbey.

3) Syrian serbia wall against me, stealing all the chances of victory. COOL VERY COOL. SOOOOOO COOOOOL.

Illyria may be the 1st clan of this season, but a clan that do cheap tricks like rewall and serbia wall doesnt deserve to be the best clan of this season. I agree in the part that you could do everything,

Oh and stopping cw? that is understandeable, but again, not very nice. Why Clans like evoL keep cwing even though they are at rank disadvantage and they was number 1? Because evoL deserve to be the best clan that atWar have not only in this season, but the previous season too. Even syndicate in past times had 1250 CP, number 1 and we still were looking for cw (ilmo the second clan had like 800 CP).

Thats the only way illy wins. But this post was op

SM CW's anyone!
(look at our comp)

लिखा द्वारा AlBoZzZ, 22.08.2014 at 19:47

लिखा द्वारा clovis1122, 22.08.2014 at 18:57

I disagree that illyria deserve 1st place. Even though I love illyria, they got in my opinion, 3 unfair win against syndicate:

1) Joed ask us for cw. They say lOrd is hollister and syrian is syrian. We agree. In the middle of cw they say syrian is hollister and lOrd is lOrd. Cool, the problem comes in the second cw when tunc fell that it was syrian playing. I proved it putting a fake message: " Btw, hope you guys dont get mad because I called a Mod for confilm if syrian is syrian" In the middle of cw. They say " No. Syrian is syrian. We only say that for the last cw. " Nice rank abuse and switching account on a CW. This has already be reported. If there is a rule which doesnt allow account information transfer WHY THESES PLAYERS ARE NOT BANNED YET!??!?!?

2) A cleary victory from syndicate, Stealed by own laochra. Then come with cheap argument's like " Ankara was not walled" " Shut up". Very cool. Poor Tuncbey.

3) Syrian serbia wall against me, stealing all the chances of victory. COOL VERY COOL. SOOOOOO COOOOOL.

Illyria may be the 1st clan of this season, but a clan that do cheap tricks like rewall and serbia wall doesnt deserve to be the best clan of this season. I agree in the part that you could do everything,

Oh and stopping cw? that is understandeable, but again, not very nice. Why Clans like evoL keep cwing even though they are at rank disadvantage and they was number 1? Because evoL deserve to be the best clan that atWar have not only in this season, but the previous season too. Even syndicate in past times had 1250 CP, number 1 and we still were looking for cw (ilmo the second clan had like 800 CP).

Thats the only way illy wins. But this post was op

firstly account swappings in illyria were occurring because skend was in illyrification but wanted to cw with the main clan. in any cw where he was on one of our accounts the opposing clan was informed. i have no idea what youre talking about with syrian on hollisters account in a cw vs syndicate. that scenario you described never happened. and if someone told you it did they were trolling you.

secondly are you referring to that cw draw wherre i walled ankara? that wasnt a serbian wall since yes, ankara was not walled the previous turn, i killed each of the wfs around ankara to get that wall up. a possibility given my dire situation and lack of possible moves to obtain victory, that tuncbey shouldve foresaw.

so please explain how this is that an excuse? do you understand how serbian walling works? you should ask your player why he didnt send a fresh wf, rather than making false accusations. If you werent paying attention and he told you ankara was walled, then he is lying.

so let me get this straight, illyria is currently on a 6 win streak vs syndicate, vs combinations of syndicates best players, and you come into this thread with false accusations and and proclaim that we do not deserve number 1?

and you would place evol on a pedestal as an example of how we all should behave? a clan who last season notched up over 1000 points after farming to low comp, and then continued to cw when their no.1 trophy was untouchable?

really clovis?? this is a poor post, even by your standards.

and commando we have repeatedly killed your clan in cws not a cheap trick in sight. given your clans performace vs us its laughable that you would suggest this is the only way we win.

लिखा द्वारा Permamuted, 22.08.2014 at 20:29

लिखा द्वारा AlBoZzZ, 22.08.2014 at 19:47

लिखा द्वारा clovis1122, 22.08.2014 at 18:57

I disagree that illyria deserve 1st place. Even though I love illyria, they got in my opinion, 3 unfair win against syndicate:

1) Joed ask us for cw. They say lOrd is hollister and syrian is syrian. We agree. In the middle of cw they say syrian is hollister and lOrd is lOrd. Cool, the problem comes in the second cw when tunc fell that it was syrian playing. I proved it putting a fake message: " Btw, hope you guys dont get mad because I called a Mod for confilm if syrian is syrian" In the middle of cw. They say " No. Syrian is syrian. We only say that for the last cw. " Nice rank abuse and switching account on a CW. This has already be reported. If there is a rule which doesnt allow account information transfer WHY THESES PLAYERS ARE NOT BANNED YET!??!?!?

2) A cleary victory from syndicate, Stealed by own laochra. Then come with cheap argument's like " Ankara was not walled" " Shut up". Very cool. Poor Tuncbey.

3) Syrian serbia wall against me, stealing all the chances of victory. COOL VERY COOL. SOOOOOO COOOOOL.

Illyria may be the 1st clan of this season, but a clan that do cheap tricks like rewall and serbia wall doesnt deserve to be the best clan of this season. I agree in the part that you could do everything,

Oh and stopping cw? that is understandeable, but again, not very nice. Why Clans like evoL keep cwing even though they are at rank disadvantage and they was number 1? Because evoL deserve to be the best clan that atWar have not only in this season, but the previous season too. Even syndicate in past times had 1250 CP, number 1 and we still were looking for cw (ilmo the second clan had like 800 CP).

Thats the only way illy wins. But this post was op

firstly account swappings in illyria were occurring because skend was in illyrification but wanted to cw with the main clan. in any cw where he was on one of our accounts the opposing clan was informed. i have no idea what youre talking about with syrian on hollisters account in a cw vs syndicate. that scenario you described never happened. and if someone told you it did they were trolling you.

secondly are you referring to that cw draw wherre i walled ankara? that wasnt a serbian wall since yes, ankara was not walled the previous turn, i killed each of the wfs around ankara to get that wall up. a possibility given my dire situation and lack of possible moves to obtain victory, that tuncbey shouldve foresaw.

so please explain how this is that an excuse? do you understand how serbian walling works? you should ask your player why he didnt send a fresh wf, rather than making false accusations. If you werent paying attention and he told you ankara was walled, then he is lying.

so let me get this straight, illyria is currently on a 6 win streak vs syndicate, vs combinations of syndicates best players, and you come into this thread with false accusations and and proclaim that we do not deserve number 1?

and you would place evol on a pedestal as an example of how we all should behave? a clan who last season notched up over 1000 points after farming to low comp, and then continued to cw when their no.1 trophy was untouchable?

really clovis?? this is a poor post, even by your standards.

and commando we have repeatedly killed your clan in cws not a cheap trick in sight. given your clans performace vs us its laughable that you would suggest this is the only way we win.

Stalin Martians is on the same field as winterfell now. Syndicate has a long losing streak. All i see is a couple times mk, but Mauzer evern said he no longer tries or has effort in games since the comeback. You're telling me you don't switch accounts prolifically? Members in your clan tell me you have. Former, current, and is widely known by the atwar community. I do not take away the skill of you or syrian you're vell adept players but bringing up whose record is what yours is meaning less. we as a clan didn't play for 2 months any of us besides buff. World Cup> Atwar sad to say but true. We came back in the last 2 weeks and when I ACTUALLY LOGGED ON I WAS DENIED BY JOEDTAXI, CHILLL, SYRIAN, AND YOU LAOCHRA. It was a request of even ranks each time, I have 6 players on yet people do in fact have lives to live they can be on but being studious or more inclined with their real life surroundings. I can't dictate who plays when they feel no need to, but in a team full of shit talkers I expect the most prolific to step up and war. That would be chill, I think the problem there was Syrian couldn't be on two accounts at the same time. He was a member that only let Syrian on his account? Anyways how are you able to adequately think that we're doing the low road, some of these clans like sm and syndicate as a clan "both have good members" haven't gone well in a clan war setting in some times. We Crimson Tide are able to play any clan, anywhere, not at any time.

लिखा द्वारा InnateWonder, 22.08.2014 at 21:01

लिखा द्वारा Permamuted, 22.08.2014 at 20:29

लिखा द्वारा AlBoZzZ, 22.08.2014 at 19:47

लिखा द्वारा clovis1122, 22.08.2014 at 18:57

Stalin Martians is on the same field as winterfell now. Syndicate has a long losing streak. All i see is a couple times mk, but Mauzer evern said he no longer tries or has effort in games since the comeback. You're telling me you don't switch accounts prolifically? Members in your clan tell me you have. Former, current, and is widely known by the atwar community. I do not take away the skill of you or syrian you're vell adept players but bringing up whose record is what yours is meaning less. we as a clan didn't play for 2 months any of us besides buff. World Cup> Atwar sad to say but true. We came back in the last 2 weeks and when I ACTUALLY LOGGED ON I WAS DENIED BY JOEDTAXI, CHILLL, SYRIAN, AND YOU LAOCHRA. It was a request of even ranks each time, I have 6 players on yet people do in fact have lives to live they can be on but being studious or more inclined with their real life surroundings. I can't dictate who plays when they feel no need to, but in a team full of shit talkers I expect the most prolific to step up and war. That would be chill, I think the problem there was Syrian couldn't be on two accounts at the same time. He was a member that only let Syrian on his account? Anyways how are you able to adequately think that we're doing the low road, some of these clans like sm and syndicate as a clan "both have good members" haven't gone well in a clan war setting in some times. We Crimson Tide are able to play any clan, anywhere, not at any time.

Syndicate has a winning record against CT this season. Illyria is the ONLY coalition to consistently beat us. Please grab a plunger and stop the shit from spewing out of your mouth.

लिखा द्वारा AlBoZzZ, 22.08.2014 at 19:47

bla

लिखा द्वारा InnateWonder, 22.08.2014 at 21:01

more bla

To answer the question why Ct is hated, is for players like comando ,innate and buffalo.So much mouthing off,unsportsmanship and disrespect that makes me want to smack the three of you in the face repeatedly.And as players in my opinion, all three of you are bla.You are weak because you have an awesome real life,innate plays good only on instances, when Jupiter and Venus align with the moon and when he is not serbian rewalling my capital turn 2 in cw and buffalo knows 2 tricks, thats it.Moreso in my 2 seasons in Illyria and my 2 seasons in Mortal Kombat, you are the only clan i had problems with in terms of cw.Worst clan to make negotiations with.We need to sign a contract months before to get to CW with your clan and only with the members you choose.I ve asked more than 20 times Ct for cw, with no as an answer.About a week ago also, if i remember correctly.I specifically told you, that if you want to be considered deserving of a 1st place this season, you have to pass through us, no rank drama and stop rejecting our cw propositions.Yet you denied cw again.As usual.

How you expect yourselfs to get 1st place when acting like this?You are a promising clan, with no cw's under your belt.you need to start playing cws to get actual experience and training and not concern yourself with the trophy that much.Thats the only way forward.

tldr As it stands i prefer to delete than let CT get the trophy

लिखा द्वारा InnateWonder, 22.08.2014 at 21:01

Stalin Martians is on the same field as winterfell now. Syndicate has a long losing streak. All i see is a couple times mk, but Mauzer evern said he no longer tries or has effort in games since the comeback. You're telling me you don't switch accounts prolifically? Members in your clan tell me you have. Former, current, and is widely known by the atwar community. I do not take away the skill of you or syrian you're vell adept players but bringing up whose record is what yours is meaning less. we as a clan didn't play for 2 months any of us besides buff. World Cup> Atwar sad to say but true. We came back in the last 2 weeks and when I ACTUALLY LOGGED ON I WAS DENIED BY JOEDTAXI, CHILLL, SYRIAN, AND YOU LAOCHRA. It was a request of even ranks each time, I have 6 players on yet people do in fact have lives to live they can be on but being studious or more inclined with their real life surroundings. I can't dictate who plays when they feel no need to, but in a team full of shit talkers I expect the most prolific to step up and war. That would be chill, I think the problem there was Syrian couldn't be on two accounts at the same time. He was a member that only let Syrian on his account? Anyways how are you able to adequately think that we're doing the low road, some of these clans like sm and syndicate as a clan "both have good members" haven't gone well in a clan war setting in some times. We Crimson Tide are able to play any clan, anywhere, not at any time.

bs you often had more than enough online to form teams vs us but ignored and trolled our requests for cws. even now you seek to go 20:0. and will shamelessly play only weak clans to do it.

mk syndi stalins and illyria are all very active clans across all timezones. yet inspite of your busy schedules and hectic social lives you still found time to cw all these lesser clans and avoid all of us.

what a joke, you shouldve just stayed silent rather than posting in this thread innate, what respect i had for you is gone.

लिखा द्वारा Permamuted, 22.08.2014 at 21:19

लिखा द्वारा InnateWonder, 22.08.2014 at 21:01

Stalin Martians is on the same field as winterfell now. Syndicate has a long losing streak. All i see is a couple times mk, but Mauzer evern said he no longer tries or has effort in games since the comeback. You're telling me you don't switch accounts prolifically? Members in your clan tell me you have. Former, current, and is widely known by the atwar community. I do not take away the skill of you or syrian you're vell adept players but bringing up whose record is what yours is meaning less. we as a clan didn't play for 2 months any of us besides buff. World Cup> Atwar sad to say but true. We came back in the last 2 weeks and when I ACTUALLY LOGGED ON I WAS DENIED BY JOEDTAXI, CHILLL, SYRIAN, AND YOU LAOCHRA. It was a request of even ranks each time, I have 6 players on yet people do in fact have lives to live they can be on but being studious or more inclined with their real life surroundings. I can't dictate who plays when they feel no need to, but in a team full of shit talkers I expect the most prolific to step up and war. That would be chill, I think the problem there was Syrian couldn't be on two accounts at the same time. He was a member that only let Syrian on his account? Anyways how are you able to adequately think that we're doing the low road, some of these clans like sm and syndicate as a clan "both have good members" haven't gone well in a clan war setting in some times. We Crimson Tide are able to play any clan, anywhere, not at any time.

bs you often had more than enough online to form teams vs us but ignored and trolled our requests for cws. even now you seek to go 20:0. and will shamelessly play only weak clans to do it.

mk syndi stalins and illyria are all very active clans across all timezones. yet inspite of your busy schedules and hectic social lives you still found time to cw all these lesser clans and avoid all of us.

what a joke, you shouldve just stayed silent rather than posting in this thread innate, what respect i had for you is gone.

You didn't find issue with me saying you share at all which was readily avoided I see. We didn't clan war for 2 months period. We started now and we go global if a clan says they want to clan war who am I to say no? We'd be having this same "scared" convo in respects to them.. The only times I've asked you, you've said no. I am saying me. I look at my roster I notice we're all online, I look at your roster I see you're online. I ask you for fair picks you said no. All this asking must have been done when no one was on because I ask your clan to cw I honest to god do, I ask SOM to clan war, The only clan who has gotten my express decline is MK. The usual reason to that being is Mauzer asks clan war as soon as I log on, without re guard at who I have on. Your clan can't say I haven't asked, that would be aberrant from my innate style.

लिखा द्वारा Khal.eesi, 22.08.2014 at 21:15

लिखा द्वारा AlBoZzZ, 22.08.2014 at 19:47

bla

लिखा द्वारा InnateWonder, 22.08.2014 at 21:01

more bla

To answer the question why Ct is hated, is for players like comando ,innate and buffalo.So much mouthing off,unsportsmanship and disrespect that makes me want to smack the three of you in the face repeatedly.And as players in my opinion, all three of you are bla.You are weak because you have an awesome real life,innate plays good only on instances, when Jupiter and Venus align with the moon and when he is not serbian rewalling my capital turn 2 in cw and buffalo knows 2 tricks, thats it.Moreso in my 2 seasons in Illyria and my 2 seasons in Mortal Kombat, you are the only clan i had problems with in terms of cw.Worst clan to make negotiations with.We need to sign a contract months before to get to CW with your clan and only with the members you choose.I ve asked more than 20 times Ct for cw, with no as an answer.About a week ago also, if i remember correctly.I specifically told you, that if you want to be considered deserving of a 1st place this season, you have to pass through us, no rank drama and stop rejecting our cw propositions.Yet you denied cw again.As usual.

How you expect yourselfs to get 1st place when acting like this?You are a promising clan, with no cw's under your belt.you need to start playing cws to get actual experience and training and not concern yourself with the trophy that much.Thats the only way forward.

tldr As it stands i prefer to delete than let CT get the trophy

You have talked shit to as many clans as possible since i've known you. I used to be in your clan and I would sit and listen to the things you said about others your conversation is invalid. when we reach 19:1 we can have the 3 loudest illyrians vs the three you named as the reason why we're most hated. You lao and chill, me commando buffalo. If the picks are again irrational by your standards then Idk what to say.

"when we reach 19:1"

you need 6 wins in a row to hit 19:1, given the level of your self assurance they wont be vs good clans undoubtedly.

we notch up a 19:1 record vs the top clans on aw and a clan who farmed mostly weak clans to reach the same record dares to come to the forums and demand a season deciding cw where they get to pick who plays from our side?

yea seems legit.