Why do clans fail?

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द्वारा Mr_Own_U, 18.03.2015 - 20:15

I feel like there has never been a dicussion for this, but many people probably wonder, why do new clans fail? And what does it take for a new clan to strive?

Many people want to make a clan for a few reasons here are the main ones in my opinion
1.) Want there name on something
2.) Building a legacy
3.) For a group of friends
4.) Map making

Arguably many more categories but this is what I think. Not many clans in this era lets say 2013 until now have actually made it.

The reason why I think a clan fails is over clan wars, obvious but the truth. When a clan war is lost many people like to blame eachother which cause unrest in a clan. Or some times egos can clash. Many clans died early on in the begginning heres a few; Bactria, American Pie Titans, Praetorian Clans , Immortal Spartans, Doomsday, The Outsiders, Pars, Alpha Omega. These are all new clans that couldn't make it past the first month. Some other clans that have died but showed potential are State of Mind and Killa Instinct.

The question is why? Why did these clans fail? Many of these founders of these clans were very excited to start something and it failed? Was it the lack of recruitment? I think it has to do with veterans not wanting to join their clans and the unwillingness to train someone. The only way you can be successful is by giving others a shot. For example, Syndicate was a major player in most of these clans today. Syndicate was basically the breeding ground of most people, myself included. Syndicate does things not many clans do which is give players a shot, maybe not as much today since Spart is inactive.

By complaining how this community does not have enough competitive clans is partially everyones fault, for not wanting to train new players. These new players could go out and make a clan like I did. It leads back to my point about clans failing because of not wanting to train lower ranks or give them a chance.

Another thing I see is clan hopping, many notable players are bouncing from clan to clan and not being able to find a spot. Losing a big name in your clan is never a good thing and it hurts a clans confidence moving forward. One of my reccomendations is not letting in any of these clan hoppers unless they are for real about wanting to stay and join. Un loyal members kill clans.. Thats why clans like Stalins, Syndicate, Illyria, MK, evoL and others are here. All of them have a group of core players who are loyal to one another.

I'm just trying to give people tips if they are looking to make a new clan that wont fail, clans are scarce already and I'd like to see some more, but i'd also like to hear your guys opinion on why new clans fail.

The Tactician ConstellationDivided लेखो: 4108 (Message) से (User): मिस्र	+2 27.08.2015 - 03:42 The Tactician लिखा द्वारा Phoenix, 26.08.2015 at 20:49 I think SM should be careful now bonker is gone, we didn't see this shit coming to SA, it just happened. SM is not like SA, or any other clan for that matter. The natural hierarchy of the clan allows many leaders and players of influence to make decisions and run the clan. We are the longest lasting competitive clan for a reason. Having said that, every time b0nker leaves it hurts because thats -1 leader, but he's always around and still helping us in CWs, games, SM Pizza Parties(these are legit the best games you could have), and general advice on running the clan. Even though SA are the receivers of a lot of speculation and criticism (by me, too) it always hurts to see a competitive clan go because that means one less clan to clash with. I hope the remainder of SA manage to pick themselves up or strengthen other clans. Cheers! ---- We are not the same - I am a Martian. We are not the same - I am a... divided constellation? लदान... लदान...
deviL लेखो: 578 (Message) से (User): मोंटेनेग्रो	+2 07.09.2015 - 18:28 deviL SA didn't go anywhere, we are there, many of our members were busy (still are) but we are getting back active ---> autumn and winter coming ---- "There is a hero in all of us" लदान... लदान...
Google Shadow Aces लेखो: 2705 (Message) से (User): USA	+1 07.09.2015 - 21:47 Google लिखा द्वारा deviL, 07.09.2015 at 18:28 Winter is coming We talked about killing the clan, but SA is going no where. The Aces fundamental beliefs are true to hold us together through the storm. You better watch out, we are coming for you! ---- Helpful Guides लदान... लदान...
Waffel Syndicate लेखो: 6422 (Message) से (User): जिबूती	08.09.2015 - 08:27 Waffel लिखा द्वारा Spart, 20.03.2015 at 18:07 Khal.eesi...please...do us all a favor and keep your nose in your own business and out of Syndicate's. You know nothing of the clan or its recent state, so please as Clovis has wished me to tell you and shut the fuck up. hahahaahah omg spart I love you <3 ---- लिखा द्वारा Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44 Waffel for mod 2015 लदान... लदान...
Ghost खाता खाते को नष्ट कर दिया है।	+1 12.09.2015 - 08:14 Ghost खाता खाते को नष्ट कर दिया है। लिखा द्वारा Zenith, 12.09.2015 at 07:59 लिखा द्वारा Google, 18.03.2015 at 20:32 Agree with all 100%, well put mou. I am not leaving Aces anytime soon, Aces op. Why are you now in War Time Heroes. Ask death1812 लदान... लदान...
clovis1122 Epic Clan लेखो: 9043 (Message) से (User): डोमिनिकन गणराज्य	+1 12.09.2015 - 09:11 clovis1122 लिखा द्वारा Guest, 12.09.2015 at 08:14 लिखा द्वारा Zenith, 12.09.2015 at 07:59 लिखा द्वारा Google, 18.03.2015 at 20:32 Agree with all 100%, well put mou. I am not leaving Aces anytime soon, Aces op. Why are you now in War Time Heroes. Ask death1812 [pr] Death1812: Ask Nero लदान... लदान...
Ghost खाता खाते को नष्ट कर दिया है।	12.09.2015 - 10:53 Ghost खाता खाते को नष्ट कर दिया है। लिखा द्वारा clovis1122, 12.09.2015 at 09:11 लिखा द्वारा Guest, 12.09.2015 at 08:14 लिखा द्वारा Zenith, 12.09.2015 at 07:59 लिखा द्वारा Google, 18.03.2015 at 20:32 Agree with all 100%, well put mou. I am not leaving Aces anytime soon, Aces op. Why are you now in War Time Heroes. Ask death1812 [pr] Death1812: Ask Nero [pr] Nero: Ask Your Monkey लदान... लदान...
Google Shadow Aces लेखो: 2705 (Message) से (User): USA	12.09.2015 - 11:52 Google लिखा द्वारा Zenith, 12.09.2015 at 07:59 लिखा द्वारा Google, 18.03.2015 at 20:32 Agree with all 100%, well put mou. I am not leaving Aces anytime soon, Aces op. Why are you now in War Time Heroes. Firstly, I didn't leave my clan, I am still with it. Secondly It was not my choice that SA merged with WTH. Long live the Shadow Aces, wherever we might be. ---- Helpful Guides लदान... लदान...
Mauzer Panteri Mortal Kombat लेखो: 1811 (Message) से (User): सर्बिया	+1 12.09.2015 - 16:21 Mauzer Panteri SA = one man, one season clan. RIP. ---- http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=14714&topicsearch=&page= लदान... लदान...
Google Shadow Aces लेखो: 2705 (Message) से (User): USA	12.09.2015 - 16:30 Google लिखा द्वारा Mauzer Panteri, 12.09.2015 at 16:21 SA = one man, one season clan. RIP. Ancient CW ---- Helpful Guides लदान... लदान...
deviL लेखो: 578 (Message) से (User): मोंटेनेग्रो	+8 13.09.2015 - 12:33 deviL लिखा द्वारा Mauzer Panteri, 12.09.2015 at 16:21 SA = one man, one season clan. RIP. Totally wrong ---- "There is a hero in all of us" लदान... लदान...
Goblin Stalins Martians लेखो: 3290 (Message) से (User): क्रोएशिया	+3 13.09.2015 - 14:08 Goblin United We Stand still a better name ---- लदान... लदान...
klevis लेखो: 900 (Message) से (User): अल्बानिया	+3 14.09.2015 - 15:43 klevis Well when noobs make clans...it happens....when big guys are leaders that lasts forever. ---- लदान... लदान...
Google Shadow Aces लेखो: 2705 (Message) से (User): USA	+2 14.09.2015 - 16:09 Google लिखा द्वारा klevis, 14.09.2015 at 15:43 Well when noobs make clans...it happens....when big guys are leaders that lasts forever. deviL made clan, will last 4ever ---- Helpful Guides लदान... लदान...
Mr_Own_U evoL लेखो: 2710 (Message) से (User): USA	+3 18.10.2017 - 12:34 Mr_Own_U AND HERE WE ARE, ALL OF OUR CLANS ARE DEAD HAHAHAHA. Edit: I think we know what kills clans... Real life! ---- It's not the end. लदान... लदान...
4nic Illyria लेखो: 5362 (Message) से (User): इटली	18.10.2017 - 12:40 4nic लिखा द्वारा Mr_Own_U, 18.10.2017 at 12:34 AND HERE WE ARE, ALL OF OUR CLANS ARE DEAD HAHAHAHA. Edit: I think we know what kills clans... Real life! ---- ''Everywhere where i am absent, they commit nothing but follies'' ~Napoleon लदान... लदान...
Khal.eesi Illyria लेखो: 4213 (Message) से (User): इजराइल	+3 18.10.2017 - 17:25 Khal.eesi लिखा द्वारा Mr_Own_U, 18.10.2017 at 12:34 AND HERE WE ARE, ALL OF OUR CLANS ARE DEAD HAHAHAHA. Edit: I think we know what kills clans... Real life! cough Illy cough.. thanks for that necro tho i enjoyed reading that. we had some good times old friend ---- लदान... लदान...
boywind2 Illyria लेखो: 3082 (Message) से (User): Montserrat	18.10.2017 - 19:11 boywind2 लिखा द्वारा 4nic, 18.10.2017 at 12:40 लिखा द्वारा Mr_Own_U, 18.10.2017 at 12:34 AND HERE WE ARE, ALL OF OUR CLANS ARE DEAD HAHAHAHA. Edit: I think we know what kills clans... Real life! लदान... लदान...
Waffel Syndicate लेखो: 6422 (Message) से (User): जिबूती	+6 20.10.2017 - 04:11 Waffel लिखा द्वारा Khal.eesi, 19.03.2015 at 13:14 -We have a high IQ average and we think alot.Stupid people, with low intelligence, close minded, racists-facists, religious fanatics and all other tards will never fit in Illyria and didnt, in the past.Another 2/3 of atwar not a good match here also. DD ---- लिखा द्वारा Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44 Waffel for mod 2015 लदान... लदान...
Azula. लेखो: 1395 (Message) से (User): बेल्जियम	17.11.2017 - 05:54 Azula. लदान... लदान...
Usernames Syndicate लेखो: 167 (Message) से (User): UK	+2 17.11.2017 - 10:11 Usernames The whole reason why coalitions fail is because well...boredom...same 6 nations every game, I play dota for 7 years solid, do you now why? Because the game changes! Change to strategies change to heroes. This game has been the same since 2010. Everyone in history who has played games solid everyday gets burnt out and plays something different! लदान... लदान...
Khal.eesi Illyria लेखो: 4213 (Message) से (User): इजराइल	+1 17.11.2017 - 11:41 Khal.eesi लिखा द्वारा Usernames, 17.11.2017 at 10:11 The whole reason why coalitions fail is because well...boredom...same 6 nations every game, I play dota for 7 years solid, do you now why? Because the game changes! Change to strategies change to heroes. This game has been the same since 2010. Everyone in history who has played games solid everyday gets burnt out and plays something different! you should pm laochra for dota..i am an old dota veteran myself, so im bored to babysit lao so he dont feed, but you should play with him. ---- लदान... लदान...
Your Mother Illyria लेखो: 1274 (Message) से (User): बेलारूस	18.11.2017 - 11:40 Your Mother लिखा द्वारा Khal.eesi, 17.11.2017 at 11:41 लिखा द्वारा Usernames, 17.11.2017 at 10:11 The whole reason why coalitions fail is because well...boredom...same 6 nations every game, I play dota for 7 years solid, do you now why? Because the game changes! Change to strategies change to heroes. This game has been the same since 2010. Everyone in history who has played games solid everyday gets burnt out and plays something different! you should pm laochra for dota..i am an old dota veteran myself, so im bored to babysit lao so he dont feed, but you should play with him. लदान... लदान...
LukeTan ConstellationDivided लेखो: 1970	+1 18.11.2017 - 23:14 LukeTan लिखा द्वारा Usernames, 17.11.2017 at 10:11 The whole reason why coalitions fail is because well...boredom...same 6 nations every game, I play dota for 7 years solid, do you now why? Because the game changes! Change to strategies change to heroes. This game has been the same since 2010. Everyone in history who has played games solid everyday gets burnt out and plays something different! play ancient its a nice place ---- लदान... लदान...

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