Duel farmers

There is a certain player who duels on an unfair map called "India vs Pakistan(also has china)" I am willing to look past the clear advantage Pakistan has but the guy will not duel me, I join his game and he leaves and rehosts. I don't know rules of duels but this does not seem fair

He does the same thing with me. He used to ban me so i couldn't join lol.

लिखा द्वारा Claire Stanfield, 22.05.2017 at 23:36

There is a certain player who duels on an unfair map called "India vs Pakistan(also has china)" I am willing to look past the clear advantage Pakistan has but the guy will not duel me, I join his game and he leaves and rehosts. I don't know rules of duels but this does not seem fair

It's more fair than ds poland vs imp turk, but yes.

The actual point of the map is that india is supposed to rush pakistan while pakistan is supposed to somehow survive and beat india

You know what is the worst part? There's no fucking rule against such bullshit behaviour regarding the competitive framework. It's totally surrealistic

And when you bring up valid points such as these you'll get mods on here defending there actions xD

Precisely the reason we need approved maps for all elements of the game, not just duels.

लिखा द्वारा Sun Tsu, 23.05.2017 at 11:03

Precisely the reason we need approved maps for all elements of the game, not just duels.

No, you can make it so that you can't duel rank 4s, rank 5s, and rank 6s because they belong in the beginner room.

Honestly it could be ANY map and as long as these low ranks will keep coming in, the farming never ends.

लिखा द्वारा LukeTan, 23.05.2017 at 01:44

लिखा द्वारा Claire Stanfield, 22.05.2017 at 23:36

There is a certain player who duels on an unfair map called "India vs Pakistan(also has china)" I am willing to look past the clear advantage Pakistan has but the guy will not duel me, I join his game and he leaves and rehosts. I don't know rules of duels but this does not seem fair

It's more fair than ds poland vs imp turk, but yes.

The actual point of the map is that india is supposed to rush pakistan while pakistan is supposed to somehow survive and beat india

Yes that is the point, I know I could win in these circumstances and that is why he does not play me

लिखा द्वारा Witch-Doctor, 23.05.2017 at 11:50

लिखा द्वारा Sun Tsu, 23.05.2017 at 11:03

Precisely the reason we need approved maps for all elements of the game, not just duels.

No, you can make it so that you can't duel rank 4s, rank 5s, and rank 6s because they belong in the beginner room.

Honestly it could be ANY map and as long as these low ranks will keep coming in, the farming never ends.

Dueling should atleast be rank 7/8+ in any other game the ranked matches cannot be done by newcomers. this can also solve the problem with low rank farmers

लिखा द्वारा Claire Stanfield, 23.05.2017 at 21:07

लिखा द्वारा Witch-Doctor, 23.05.2017 at 11:50

लिखा द्वारा Sun Tsu, 23.05.2017 at 11:03

Precisely the reason we need approved maps for all elements of the game, not just duels.

No, you can make it so that you can't duel rank 4s, rank 5s, and rank 6s because they belong in the beginner room.

Honestly it could be ANY map and as long as these low ranks will keep coming in, the farming never ends.

Dueling should atleast be rank 7/8+ in any other game the ranked matches cannot be done by newcomers. this can also solve the problem with low rank farmers

exacly,lowranks fall prey to these duel scammers..not allowing duels until a certain rank will also solve all those alts that make duels in begginers room

Separating beginner elo from main elo is the best action.

लिखा द्वारा Sun Tsu, 25.05.2017 at 04:35

Separating beginner elo from main elo is the best action.

This won't solve a thing, Rank 4s,5s,6s are coming to main room to be farmed in these duels.

लिखा द्वारा Witch-Doctor, 25.05.2017 at 08:13

लिखा द्वारा Sun Tsu, 25.05.2017 at 04:35

Separating beginner elo from main elo is the best action.

This won't solve a thing, Rank 4s,5s,6s are coming to main room to be farmed in these duels.

Go Witch I believe in you you can beat him!

लिखा द्वारा Sun Tsu, 25.05.2017 at 04:35

Separating beginner elo from main elo is the best action.

I say mod approved duel maps

Problem:
Beginners being farmed
Solution:
Split main and beginner elo

Problem:
Beginners walking to the farm
Solution:
Ban them from duelling

Problem:
Some maps are unfair
Solution:
Mod approved duel maps

On a side note, can i propose that a duel can be deleted if both duellers agree. In case of dc

लिखा द्वारा LukeTan, 25.05.2017 at 11:08

To a point I believe players should have freedom to duel on maps of their choice. Obviously something like this shouldn't be allowed but i agree with Claire and Nic in saying that only once you reach say rank 7/8 should you be allowed to duel. Now this might seem a bit much but if you go to any other game where they have professional/ranked games... beginners usually cannot join them until they reach a certain point.

लिखा द्वारा Sun Tsu, 25.05.2017 at 04:35

Separating beginner elo from main elo is the best action.

Terrible idea in my opinion, I can see your point is it's kind of like main elo is professional season while beginner is like semi pro.. i wouldn't be so against something similar with coalitions but we don't have enough active coalitions for that kind of idea where teams get relegated to a lower league or something like that.

लिखा द्वारा Guest, 25.05.2017 at 22:06

लिखा द्वारा LukeTan, 25.05.2017 at 11:08

To a point I believe players should have freedom to duel on maps of their choice. Obviously something like this shouldn't be allowed but i agree with Claire and Nic in saying that only once you reach say rank 7/8 should you be allowed to duel. Now this might seem a bit much but if you go to any other game where they have professional/ranked games... beginners usually cannot join them until they reach a certain point.

I agree, we need to find a balance.

On a side note, I notice that the thread that started with a crying message about an unfair map et cetera got more attention than the thread which started with proposed solutions

लिखा द्वारा LukeTan, 25.05.2017 at 22:09

I agree, we need to find a balance.

On a side note, I notice that the thread that started with a crying message about an unfair map et cetera got more attention than the thread which started with proposed solutions

The solutions were stupid that's why, Mods should be able to determine which maps are unfair but they shouldn't just select a few which people can play as there are very diverse opinions on what map should be in and out. Me for example I think Ancient world shouldnt be allowed, it's extremely unbalanced and everyone just plays as 1 strategy... where as a map like LOTR I think is a good map for duels as you can play a variety of strategies on it and income/reinforcements are very well balanced. there are key areas to pick and before one of those bullshit artists come and complain about units, the map has regular units Militia, infantry, cavalry.... etc but im not much of a dueler so i guess my opinion isnt that valid.

oh and yes a duel can be deleted, just screenshot you both agreeing and ask a moderator.

लिखा द्वारा Guest, 25.05.2017 at 22:15

Me for example I think Ancient world shouldnt be allowed, it's extremely unbalanced and everyone just plays as 1 strategy...

Actually, no. There are 4 main viable strategies (IF, PD, GW, NC), being IF the most popular. And it wouldn't seem so inbalanced to you if you understood it. I know it's not perfect but not that bad either.

लिखा द्वारा Guest, 25.05.2017 at 22:15

where as a map like LOTR I think is a good map for duels as you can play a variety of strategies on it and income/reinforcements are very well balanced. there are key areas to pick and before one of those bullshit artists come and complain about units, the map has regular units Militia, infantry, cavalry....

So does ancient even GOT could be considered for duels as well

लिखा द्वारा RaulPB, 26.05.2017 at 11:37

Actually, no. There are 4 main viable strategies (IF, PD, GW, NC), being IF the most popular. And it wouldn't seem so inbalanced to you if you understood it. I know it's not perfect but not that bad either.

I look at map and it looks just as playable as LOTR and game of thrones i think

I just caught one of those low rank alts in the progress of trying to farm xD

Get tough on farmers.

Duel scammers should be sanctioned too.......

लिखा द्वारा Witch-Doctor, 28.05.2017 at 01:40

Get tough on farmers.

Well ironically I was playing on an alt of mine, thought id duel a few low ranks try and spot some talent maybe catch one of these alts in the act and sure enough I got one xD

I believe banning lowranks from duels or giving them separate duel ranking is wrong, because that will block player improvement, and you will have deterioration of quality.

लिखा द्वारा Black Swans, 28.05.2017 at 12:16

I believe banning lowranks from duels or giving them separate duel ranking is wrong, because that will block player improvement, and you will have deterioration of quality.

In order to keep the competitive scene actually competitive, there should be a limit to when you can participate, just like how it works in any other competitive game, which is why separating the rankings is a good thing.

>When being a rank 6 is considered 'beginner'

Mfw..

Edit: we rlly need a facepalm emoji..

लिखा द्वारा Waffel, 28.05.2017 at 12:52

>When being a rank 6 is considered 'beginner'

To be fair, a rank 6 is no match for any of us rank 10... so I would consider them beginners still.

लिखा द्वारा RaulPB, 28.05.2017 at 15:06

लिखा द्वारा Waffel, 28.05.2017 at 12:52

>When being a rank 6 is considered 'beginner'

To be fair, a rank 6 is no match for any of us rank 10... so I would consider them beginners still.

And who's to blame? If a rank 6 or rank 7 joins a 3v3 or a game it gets kicked or a country gets already picked for him, we setup a to-dolist for people based on their ranks. What happened about some selfinput? Let them learn, let them fail, stop the fucking SP farms and making them ranks they arent. Most of the rank 10's are still rank 6's tho.

लिखा द्वारा Waffel, 28.05.2017 at 15:13

And who's to blame? If a rank 6 or rank 7 joins a 3v3 or a game it gets kicked or a country gets already picked for him, we setup a to-dolist for people based on their ranks. What happened about some selfinput? Let them learn, let them fail, stop the fucking SP farms and making them ranks they arent. Most of the rank 10's are still rank 6's tho.

Well, I personally felt more like a beginner when I was rank 6 than when I was rank 3 due to the collision with high ranks... so idk what to say exactly. I think it is normal for a rank 6 to still be and feel like a beginner, that's why they still learn, fail, experience, get tutored, etc.

लिखा द्वारा RaulPB, 28.05.2017 at 17:09

लिखा द्वारा Waffel, 28.05.2017 at 15:13

And who's to blame? If a rank 6 or rank 7 joins a 3v3 or a game it gets kicked or a country gets already picked for him, we setup a to-dolist for people based on their ranks. What happened about some selfinput? Let them learn, let them fail, stop the fucking SP farms and making them ranks they arent. Most of the rank 10's are still rank 6's tho.

Well, I personally felt more like a beginner when I was rank 6 than when I was rank 3 due to the collision with high ranks... so idk what to say exactly. I think it is normal for a rank 6 to still be and feel like a beginner, that's why they still learn, fail, experience, get tutored, etc.

That's rankist against greenie and lord pontez...