06.08.2016 - 21:26
One of rare topics where I am almost tabula rasa (same goes for classical music or fine arts). To be honest, I never investigated anything about things like illuminati, freemasons or that 'fantastic' secret lobby. Same as you, I've heard plenty of conspiracy theories about masons and rest of company but I never heard something exactly and fully true or correct about them; those theories are always 50:50, you can trust they are true, or you don't have to. It's never being clear. Also, I've heard for NWO which is probably product of masons and that plenty of influent and known people are /were actually - masons as Beyonce, Eminem, George Washington, J.S.Bach, even current Croatian president Kolinda Grabar Kitarovic. Whatsmore, I've found a list of 'very possible' masons in Croatia, mostly made of our well known politicans, entrepreneurs and even some football trainers ( http://sbonline.net/procitajte-konacan-popis-svih-poznatih-masona-u-hrvatskoj ) Another thing I've heard once is that masons actually killed Marting L. King, plenty of musicans (as Michael Jackson, John Lennon, Bob Marley, Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain, Jimmy Hendrix), Bruce Lee, even several USA presidents (Lincoln, Kennedy, ..). So, if anyone is informed about this theme, can you please tell me more about this. I mean not people like Pavle, because I can search some infos on interent and copy-paste it too, but someone who is interested in this area and who follow it often. Very thanks.
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06.08.2016 - 21:50
Tupac Shakur has been allegedly killed by the illuminati aswell and has an album named Killuminati (pretty weird) but as much as these conspiracies are interesting and fun to ramble about , they are faker than those creepypasta stories that were popular a few years ago
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06.08.2016 - 21:56
Done my own research on this topic. i've come to the conclusion there are some entities (illuminati/masions) under another name or have no name. No name makes you not affiliated to any group but still act together as one.Now there is theories and documents that put (Illuminati) behind the ww1+2. These documents were wrote before the wars started and were a planned out event of the war before it even started.http://humansarefree.com/2011/03/3-world-wars-planned-by-illuminati.html A lot of things go on in this world that we are blinded to while playing games, watching sport(also apparent Illuminati, made sport main stream to distract and gain profit of the people) watching reality tv shows to influence how we behave. TV to show us lies of the world(not all) See, there are many more things related to this subject but, to put them all in this one post would be impossible. I just today watched the move purge 3( enjoy http://potlocker.me/the-purge-election-year-2016_283a07c60.html) clear portrayal of a higher group(bohemian grove/Illuminati). There are so many other portrayals of these types of groups in films all around the world. Why? cause they like to show you the truth in plain sight as if it was not real. Now there are conspiracy of course and i do not believe them all myself. Do you're own research, its the best way to find the truth. They come under man names and societies, companies, organisations, governments, you just have to look.They all always seem to lead back to the same people. JF.
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06.08.2016 - 22:07
The design of the US Dollar is a product of the Illuminati according to conspiracy theories
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06.08.2016 - 22:12
Interesting, especially your first link (I'll watch movie later). This makes your mind blow and ask yourself 'Are all those coincidences really possible'. As for thing from the link about Vatican, before there was a theory how the Church is actually an organisation in which masons try very hard to step in. By this I mean to take control on the higher areas of Church's hierarchy. Few weeks ago I've read on some Croatian internet portal that masons tried to put in a homosexual in deep core of Christian Church in Vatican and they almost did it. Idk the details, but there are some 'facts' that their people are already inserted in, still not as deep as they want, but they're involved and they still try to spread their plans through everything, and the most wanted target now is Church. (http://beforeitsnews.com/religion/2014/02/freemasonry-in-the-vatican-illuminati-involvement-and-a-list-of-members-2463890.html)
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06.08.2016 - 22:13
Yea, heard of that, here is it with description
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07.08.2016 - 04:50
Finally that somebody made this topic. I was very interested in illuminati story, so i know a lot, but everything as you know 50/50, but in every lie there us a but if truth..... Here is a story of one ex-Illuminati member that i saw on one unpopular site, site became popular and whole topic was deleted, but i have that story on notepad. " When I was nineteen years old, I fell into some money through some connections with friends and some successful investments of some money that I had made throughout my childhood. I got involved in some backroom deals and saw my money begin to grow. As I attended college at Harvard in 1964, I begin to become increasingly rich, and my influence on campus grew as well through my participation in various clubs, and organizations. Some friends and I began to serve as quasi-stock brokers while still at Harvard. I made tons of cash during that year, and was very powerful and influential on campus. One night as I was walking back to my dorm shortly after midnight, I was approached by two men in black suits. I initially assumed that they were going to investigate my business activity because some of it was not exactly legal. They asked me to come with them and I followed them into the basement of a two story house a couple streets over from my dorm room. They sat me down at a table and asked me if I was willing to make a deal. They would not tell me what deal I would be making, but just continually asked if I would be willing to make a deal. I half-assed agreed that I would, and that is when the biggest man that I have ever seen walked through some closet doors and sat down First of all, if you do not believe me then I am sorry. I am here to tell the truth, and nothing that is written by me is false exaggeration nor science fiction. This information is real, it is true, it is reality, and it is time for it to be told. I was a member of the Illuminati for 47 years. I was recruited when I was 19 years old. I have posted here off and on over the past year. (Some of the posts are mine, others are my brothers, mainly they are his) The information that I am about to unfold is very revealing and very dangerous. I am one of seven people in the history of the Illuminati that have performed the "Departure" Ritual. I knew that I needed to get out when I had something revealed to me at a meeting in June of 2010. For years I was in line with the beliefs, motives, and actions of the Illuminati, but it recently became too much for me to bear, and I had to extinguish my sacred contract. " Well, the most players are probably interested in their hiding places. Currently, there are 57 underground bases and bunkers around the United States that are in use for various purposes. There are 439 bunkers in the entire world. ALL of these bunkers and bases are controlled and maintained by the Illuminati. The largest underground bunker is in Sao Paulo, Brazil. This bunker has the capability of holding up to 5,000 people for a period of up to ten years. I have personally been in this bunker, and it is much larger than one that anyone can possible even imagine. This bunker is secured mainly for the events of the end times. 5,000 of the world's richest, brightest, and most powerful individuals will secure shelter in this bunker in the event of a global thermonuclear war, natural disaster, or any other form of global catastrophe. Don't be confused. Several other bunkers have the ability of housing large numbers of people for extended periods of time, but no other bunkers is as large and capable as this one. In the event of World War 3, all of the world's leaders will take shelter here, and the governments of the world will be theoretical proxy governments. The world's richest people will be here as well. People such as Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, the oil tycoons ( however, these oil tycoons will be murdered while they are in the bunker so that the takeover of the Middle East will be much easier for the New World Order). I do not know the exact number, but of the 439 bunkers in the world, around 275 of them are constructed mainly for shelter and extended stays.They are very nice, very luxurious. It is practically like you a 5 star hotel. Some people that have stayed in these bunkers: Leon Trotsky: After Stalin defeated Trotsky and secured power in the Soviet Union following Lenin's death, Trotsky was moved to an underground bunker just inside Switzerland. Stalin originally did not know about this because if he did not follow the orders of the Illuminati, then Trotsky was going to be reinstated as the leader of the Soviet Union. It was important to have Trotsky placed in this bunker because Stalin was going to kill him otherwise. Stalin eventually fell in line with the Illuminati's plans, and Trotsky was executed because he was no longer needed. Abraham Lincoln: Lincoln was NOT murdered by John Wilkes Booth. Lincoln was placed in the office of presidency as a pawn. The Illuminati knew that if he was elected then the South would secede. The Civil War made the North very, very rich. That was the only reason the Civil War was allowed to happen. If the Illuminati had not seen the opportunity to become rich off of the war, then slavery would still be an American institution. Lincoln was placed in office just to start the war. He made a deal that once the war was over, that he would be removed from office. This was taken care of through a fake assassination, and he spent the rest of his days in a bunker in Mexico. Saddam Hussein: Hussein was in power in Iraq merely to raise justification for invasion by the United States and other nations. Many of you are already familiar with what I have said in off topic forum about the plans to entirely take over the Middle East and to secure the oil that is currently untapped. The Hussein that was "hung" was a dummy, and the cell phone video that was release was meant to be released as "proof." Saddam is currently in a bunker somewhere in Argentina. The rest of the bunkers in the world are used for storage of things that cannot be stored on top of the ground. Nuclear stockpiles are being held in these underground bunkers . In the event that a nation veers off the course that is planned, then they will be eliminated. Either through assassination of their leaders or by nuclear destruction. Thankfully, nuclear action has not had to be taken yet; however, do not put it past these people to bring about such destruction. You all know about the HAARP machine conspiracy!? It is real. The machine is housed entirely in a bunker that is underwater in the Pacific Ocean. This machine was developed back in the 1980's, and was first used in the late nineties. This machine has capability of creating any natural disaster that the Illuminati wish to create. Hurricane Katrina was a product of the HAARP machine. The Hurricane was used as a diversion. While the area was in chaos, and attention was diverted everywhere, engineers were sent down to prepare for the gulf oil spill. I can assure you that the Illuminati is capable of releasing more oil into the gulf. The oil that has already been pumped into the gulf is only a small amount compared to what could possibly be done. I think that the oil spill was used as an agent to implant microbodies into the brains of the children in the area. These children that have been affected are now subject to government control whenever these microbodies are activated. The Illuminati also used the opportunity that Katrina presented to build a bunker that is directly beneath the French Quarter. The HAARP machine is not controlled by any one single country; it is collectively controlled and used. The earthquake in Haiti, the ones that happened over the past couple days, warming in parts of Serbia, all are products of the HAARP. Not all of the events are relevant or important, some are just tests, some are even mistakes. Rest assured however that once there is need for a natural disaster, the disaster can be generated, engineered, and directed and have whatever effect is necessary. Another thing that is housed in these bunkers are drugs. There are massive amounts of cocaine, marijuana, heroine, and all kinds of other drugs being stored. The drug trade and war on drugs are essential to the Illuminati. As more and more drugs are traded and cartels become more powerful, the Illuminati becomes richer and more powerful. One of the major contributors and benefactors to the drug trade is Warren Buffett. Buffett has been running the drug trade in the Western Hemisphere for the past twenty years. The drug cartels of Mexico are under his power. It is important that the Illuminati control the majority of the drugs in North America. This is because it gives them yet another vehicle to transport technology that allows them to take control of the consumers. The Illuminati is constantly searching for ways to implant themselves in the minds of the general public, and naturally, control of the drug trade was the perfect way to do so. Buffett secured control of the drug trade when he approached multiple drug cartels and presented them with contracts. He has been in control ever since, and Ben Bernanke is assisting him with the day to day operations. Another thing that is housed in these bunkers are drugs. There are massive amounts of cocaine, marijuana, heroine, and all kinds of other drugs being stored. The drug trade and war on drugs are essential to the Illuminati. As more and more drugs are traded and cartels become more powerful, the Illuminati becomes richer and more powerful. One of the major contributors and benefactors to the drug trade is Warren Buffett. Buffett has been running the drug trade in the Western Hemisphere for the past twenty years. The drug cartels of Mexico are under his power. It is important that the Illuminati control the majority of the drugs in North America. This is because it gives them yet another vehicle to transport technology that allows them to take control of the consumers. The Illuminati is constantly searching for ways to implant themselves in the minds of the general public, and naturally, control of the drug trade was the perfect way to do so. Buffett secured control of the drug trade when he approached multiple drug cartels and presented them with contracts. He has been in control ever since, and Ben Bernanke is assisting him with the day to day operations. The most interesting part of the whole Illuminati agenda is who is the leader of the Illuminati? I am completely unsure who the top, head leaders of the Illuminati are at this point, but I will give my best guess. The Illuminati is structured so that there are one to three major leaders in each major region of the world; however, some regions are left out because of a lack of a suitable leader; therefore, a leader is installed there. In North America: Warren Buffett is most likely the head of all Illuminati operations. Followed by Ben Bernanke, followed by Lloyd Blankfein who is CEO of Goldman Sachs. Goldman Sachs is a key player in the North American Illuminati sector. Recently, Goldman Sachs invested almost $500 million dollars in Facebook. Usually this means that Facebook will fall under Illuminati control soon, just as Myspace and Twitter have. Other key players in North America are Alex Jones, Bill Clinton, Rahm Emmanuel, of course Obama, and Timothy Geithner South America is void of any real Illuminati leaders. Hugo Chavez has been difficult to work with in the past. He seems to be in line with the Illuminati agenda; however, he does not like being told what to do. Most of the North American leaders control South America as well. In Europe: Nicolas Sarkozy is the main guy. He controls the majority of the operations in Europe and Africa. Gordon Brown was very influential in the Illuminati until he decided to begin playing his way; this is why he was removed from office. My opinion is that he is still a key player, just not as key as he once was. There are several African arms dealer that have recently gained some power; however, I am unaware of their identities. The Middle East is controlled largely by Benjamin Netanyahu which should not come as much of a surprise. Netanyahu does not have as much control as you would think however. As I have stated before, Israel is the grand puppet state of the Illuminati.They will do absolutely anything that the Illuminati wants them to do, and they will do it to the best of their ability without even thinking twice. Israel has been given the permission to fire upon Iran whenever it wishes to do so. Control of the Middle East is hard because there are so many rebel groups. Palestine should not even be worried about. Although they are not controlled by the Illuminati, they are not able to do anything. Iran is borderline at time, and completely in opposition at others. This is why Israel will destroy Iran to start WWIII. Asia is controlled entirely by president of Mother Russia Vladimir Putin and his cronies. Putin is a very powerful, very smart man. He will regain popular control of Russia very soon, but you can be assured that everything that is happening in Russia right now is going through him. China has chosen to give up a little power to the Illuminati. They cooperate; just do not care to become too involved. In my opinion, it is because they feel that they will be able to defeat the Illuminati in the end. They are sadly mistaken. Eventually they will come to terms and will join in the great skit that will be called World War 3.
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07.08.2016 - 08:08
Illuminati and zionists... both wrong and both misused for political interest (illuminaty are invented by doomsday cults to explain totalitarian apocalyptic future and zionism is jewish movement, not con. theory). Truth is there is war between Jesuits and Freemasons. It is even visible. They fight for supremacy and they both use different methods. Jesuits own Vatikan and control Catholics while Freemasons use industry and financials to control. Jesuits are fanatics who act like parasites to Europe and because Europe got richer (thanks to Masonic industry and finance) they got some power, while Freemasons are more practical and cool-blooded. - Freemasons control America, Russia and China - Jesuits control Europe and South America (catholic-majority part of the world) - America had 300,000 catholic mexicans in WW2, now there are 50 million catholics there, because ministry of immigration is taken over by Jesuits, more catholics they have - more control they exercise in those regions - Catholicism under Jesuit leadership had split with Christianity and started to oppress and spread through Europe in Middle Ages, enforcing their will through violence, wars, torture, triggering Protestantism, using catholic Poland to invade Russia repeatedly, not help Christian Europe when Turks invaded non-catholic Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia and Romania - When Jesuits saw Freemasonic Russia is getting richer, they started wars to slow it down, eventually inventing ideologies like Communism and Nazism, one to occupy Russia, other to attack it (again) - Masonic USA and Jesuit-led Communist Russia didn't fight in Cold War because Freemasons as said above are not fanatics like Jesuits, but practical, they were patient and had time to wait for Russia and China to transform back into capitalist countries - Jesuit-created Nazism occupied Europe to enforce Jesuit rules and control, killing 50 million people, like Jews, Serbs, Poles, while they didn't touch Catholics like French - Serbia as Christian nation is one of the few in Europe free from Jesuit control, but under Masonic influence. Jesuits used Catholic Croats to kill 1 million Serbs in WW2 and used Austrians to invade Serbia in WW1 to kill as much of them because Europe must be 100% under Jesuit Catholic control. - Tito as Catholic Croat is brought to lead Croatian-led Yugoslavia to slow down Serbian (industrial) progress and after Yugoslavia collapsed like USSR, Masons arrived in Serbia to lead it against Jesuit Croatia. Serbia is probably last Masonic foothold in Europe, still not in EU - 'Progress' is clearly visible in Masonic-led America, Russia and China with economic growth, investment and finance while Jesuit-led Europe and Latin America is stagnating or collapsing because Jesuits are religious fanatics and not practical economists with touch in reality. - Jesuits are trying to import as many catholic latin americans they can in United States so they can influence their part of the world and eventually take control of the country - China ban catholicism so they can't control it, they have to use ideology. Same with Russia - Freemasons try to control Europe and Latin America by sending troops (NATO, Condor Operation), ISIS, terrorists, inflitrating their governments, creating lobbies If i have to choose, i pick Freemasons, atleast they are practical and not bloodthirdy fanatics like Jesuits.
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07.08.2016 - 11:10
dovoljno ti je citati stranice na fb novi svjetski poredak, matrix world, i postove novinara Mladena Marica
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07.08.2016 - 13:39
dejan lucic*
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07.08.2016 - 14:40
Typical Serb thoughts that whole world is rotating around Serbs and their holy Serbia. Dude, no one gives a fuck about you, no one killed 1million Serbs and no one planned to invade and continue killing holy Serbian nation. Ok, except Turks who invaded you and fucked you up for 500 years, but shhh
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07.08.2016 - 14:43
i care for 1 millions Serbs killed idiot.
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07.08.2016 - 14:52
Caring about fictional number of 1 million dead Serbs on the forums of virtual online game is pretty dumb caring, you know?
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07.08.2016 - 14:52
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07.08.2016 - 15:17
Nazis always try to deny holocaust, whether it is Jewish or Serbian. You should ask yourself why those holocausts happened in the first place, what those nations did to the perpetrator, to make them do such evil.
---- If a game is around long enough, people will find the most efficient way to play it and start playing it like robots
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22.08.2016 - 01:35
In our world people love to give labels to things in order to fimiliarize themselves with it and make it more personal. In which case it doesn't matter what you call these people, (illuminati, free masons, nwo) the point is they are real, and they are acient, there group has changed and evolved with every failure they learned and adapted with every success and every failed attempt. Becoming an illusion to society was very much planned, becoming nameless was planned, the information age there greatest weapon (misinformation) turning there shadowy group and there goals into fairy tales. Now they have done such a great job of shrouding the truth and spinning a false reality that they have now have made anyone who speaks about them as taboo as there goal, and there goals cut no shorter then total global domination through the pansy scheme known as modern banking. They have tried time and time again through controling of nations to enslave the planet through force and have always failed due to the untamable human spirit. So they instead built an illusion of freedom and letting everyone choose between choices they engineered for us, basically which job you'll work twards persuing as your career, just to pay taxes to your government which is controlled by the money which is produced in there national banks and distributed in there branches. Your illusion of freedom as long as you give up your time and health to work for there tax revenue. That is just one example. They assume control of countries through the national banks which control the wealth, if they can loan you cash via credit at an interest and keep everyone in debt they can use the revenue they get off interested to buy up all real value in this world, our medical industries to keep us sick, our food to keep us unhealthy, our schools to keep us dumb, our resources to keep us dependent, our research to keep us from evolving and reaching beyond there cage. All this to build more power for themselves and to what end I can not be certain. Just know there biggest fear is of people waking up and it's happening, so they are creating global crises to keep us busy with each other and our problems instead of hanging these monsters and there dogs (politicians). Fear is their greatest weapon, and unity of people's is there greatest fear. Just a note of there handy work, read a little of aws forums and how all these small minorities fight like there group and there problems are the center of the universe. This behavior was designed to keep us at each others throats and people are so dumb it's worked like a dream.
---- We are not the same- I am a Martian.
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22.08.2016 - 01:47
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22.08.2016 - 01:49
Yes, is the NWO, we need putin and serbs to defend the old fragile west ;^)
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22.08.2016 - 01:51
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22.08.2016 - 01:55
All fun and games till the power goes out and people get hungry, in reality without any conspiracy we live on a planet with 9 billion people a planet ment for 6 billion and it's growing every year, sooner or later the higher powers will have to decide to let us as a species die out or kill those they deem unworthy. There is no denying this.
---- We are not the same- I am a Martian.
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22.08.2016 - 02:06
Overpopulation has always been a 3rd world problem, the first world doesn't have overpopulation problems. If overpopulation is actually a problem then you will start seeing outbreaks of unknown diseases in Africa and India.
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22.08.2016 - 02:13
Believe what you want, fuck. I seriously care about people and I never wanted to play this card but I geuss I will. My father is wealthy he owns part of the big three auto company General Motors, I work for my father, he is one of them, iv seen the strange men, the weird behavior the private meetings, the secret clubs iv seen it all. It isn't conspiracy anymore but it is ideal for people to believe so because it gives them hope that this glass box reality can last forever, it makes them confortable, it makes life less fearful, but I'm sorry and that's not the case, it will shatter all at once, many people are going to die as everything falls apart, it's by design, and just like after world War two and the death of colonialism, this time it will be the death freedom as they pick up the pieces and build a new. Don't belive me that's ok, someone will and hopefully this will help them mentally prepare themselves for what is to come.
---- We are not the same- I am a Martian.
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22.08.2016 - 02:35
;^) yes helly is all about the {insert secret societ} here. Is a nice tinfoil conspiracy theory
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